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家园 第一次写这么正式的文字。。。真难为你了。

个人希望大家仍然把范围集中在技术方面,这样才能更多地排除主观因素,客观来看待这个事情

不过,你所提的很多问题,好象帖子里已经回答了。。。我真的有点搞不懂,也可能是你“认为美军没有使用细菌弹”的观点太根深蒂固,所以看贴的时候,内容进不去?

不过,看你挺执着的。。。好吧,让我再花点时间回复你一下

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除了著名的宣传弹被当成细菌弹以外,在思MM贴的照片中,第二张照片里的那个玩意

你说的那个“著名的宣传弹”不是细菌弹,你是如何证实不是的?

而我在的第一个贴里的图片里,有说明:Biological Weapons: US Germ Warfare in Korea ... It was called the E73R or M115 bomb. Source: File 1280-secret (1953), Entry 1B, Box 256, RG 175, NA. ...

还有本文的链接里有整篇文章,这里我替你摘录,希望你下次看贴的同时也可以看看链接,很多问题就能解答了,因为这是写贴的资料来源

There was considerable activity surrounding the development of insect vectors and accompanying munitions to disseminate disease. A standardized biological weapon, the converted 500 lb. leaflet bomb (M16 or M115/E73R), also referred to as a feather bomb (since it used turkey feathers as a vector to carry disease), was available in large quantities for anti-crop use with a standardized cereal rust spore or as a tactical carrier with an anti-personnel agent capable of contaminating A supplies and equipment@ of the military supply system of enemy troops.(15) This converted leaflet bomb carrying insect vectors figured prominently in the Chinese and North Korean charges of US biological weapons attacks

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写这些文章的人,都经过调查。。。你再不相信,那么唯一的办法就是你自己亲自去检验有没有毒。

包括这里你说的是“伞降照明弹”。因为这里的图片是黑白的,但如果你看清在第一帖的图片,那么可以看出它的材料是硬纸做的。。。

2.你贴了wiki里的很长一篇有关~中国拒绝红十字会世界卫生组织国际委员会的多次前往朝鲜调查的请求。。。这个问题,我在这个贴一上来就写了原因。你没看?

另外由于我没有看到具体的人员名单,因此很自然地想到一个问题:“这其中有没有微生物学家和病理学家?”
你还是看贴不认真,起码文章已经中说到:

当年国际科学委员会的观察员和顾问、意大利微生物学家佛朗哥 格雷齐奥西(葛法蓝),也是如今惟一健在的成员。他回国后护照被意大利警方剥夺。在后来的岁月里,葛法蓝接受过很多西方国家媒体的采访,他也一直坚持当年他在国际科学委员声明中的观点。

他可是刚刚从罗马大学巴斯德研究所所长的位置上退休的啊。。。够权威了吧

还有,也是我文章里引用里有的,以防你不看,我这里再引用一遍:

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I went to China in 1952 wanting to assess the assertions of germ warfare being one reason. Without going into the evidence, I came away convinced that Chinese officials believed that the evidence was conclusive. On returning, Alan Watt my successor as permanent head of the Australian Department of External Affairs, informed me that in the light of my public statements he had sought a response from Washington and was informed that the United States had used biological weapons during the Korean war but only for experimental purposes."Dr. John Burton, letter of 12th April 1997

Western scholarship has tended to dismiss the Chinese and North Korean medical evidence. Recently declassified documents indicate that these dismissals were contrived. One of the most widely circulated of these dismissals was a 1952 report by three distinguished Canadian scientists instigated by the U.S. government. None of the three was on the government =s biological warfare panel. On the other hand, documents declassified in the mid-1990s indicate that the Canadian Department of External Affairs also sent the evidence to Prof. Guilford B. Reed, head of the Canadian biological warfare laboratories at Queens University and perhaps the leading expert on insect vectors in the coordinated Canadian and U.S. programs. Reed concluded in 1952 that the Chinese evidence was entirely feasible, and recommended that Minister of External Affairs Lester B. Pearson avoid public discussion of the scientific aspects of the charges. (42) This document was kept secret until 1996.

加拿大1996年才解密的文件,显示:这些文件的“失踪”是人为的,其中包括三位著名加拿大科学家1952年写的调查报告,因此他们在美国政府唆使下被解雇了。三人都不任职政府生物战小组。另一90年代中期解密的文件表明,加拿大对外事务部也提交证据给Prof. Guilford B. Reed,加拿大女王大学的生物战实验室负责人,也许领导加拿大和美国昆虫媒介计划的专家。Reed认为在中国在1952年的证据是完全可行合理的,但建议对外事务部长Lester B. Pearson不要做公开讨论。

好了,我想我给你资料已经很有力了。

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