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家园 "人类终于理解了质量能量和信息量这3个度量的定义和检测"

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agreed and thx, I like this kind of discussions, and I would think most people in this forum like that too, because they are largely "physics and math science" related, and I hope this kind of discussions will continue benefiting most of the folks in this forum, including myself.

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why not extending it into and avoiding social science?

because at this stage of human civilization on the earth, social science is still largely "mingled" together with national culture (in the case of china, the chinese style marxist-maoism, etc),民族语言 (民族 "logic" of its social science ) , national identity, religion and pride, which very often works great for the nation's ruling political regimes (obviousely not china only, but kind of all major "big" or "big" enough "non-western" 主權 countries).

those ruling political regimes will be likely unconditioally supported by the people in those nations, in the most cases of national conflicts, even the conflicts may be non-military at all, "don't tell us what to do", etc

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so, any following -like arguments related discussions will likely going no where, but generating emotion outlays and "entropy", if u will, then why doing that?

"以“最优秀”“最伟大”这些没有标量的口吻来讨论中国文字,中国科技和中国文化在人类历史的地位,功能和贡献了", etc

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my "guess" of tg/china politics,

and the "meaningless" of its discussions, under our current "能标", again my guess:

u're on the money, sir [ 晓兵 ] 于:2013-02-24 11:47:07 复:3849294

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first of all, let get"tg" out of equation (so this discussion is less political): very likely tg will be there 4 long long time, if I may guess.

tg'結合能 has a "huge energy gap" by "n orders", over tg's domestic and/or international environments' "溫度", so big "boss" is ok, if not 4 "ever".

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therefore, tg's social science=chinese social science, period

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我再最后涉及这个题目一次 [ 晓兵 ] 于:2010-11-06 22:23:14 复:3155701

http://www.ccthere.com/article/3155986

从“思路”看,欧美主要是欧从古希腊开始,一直在思考人类世界的自然和社会规则,其他文明也在思考,但欧州先在自然科学突破,顺便成套研发了一套社会公理,并以暴力协助,试图统一全世界。。。

尽管数理对经济学等都是远程支持,如老曾讲,但欧美毕竟有数理远程支持欧美社会公理,其他的文明就是王婆卖瓜了。。

但王婆是主权国家, 可见将来,国家是主权国家,而且武装统一世界几乎不可能,长期占领任何一个国家都很困难,类似地,国家主权背后就有文化主权,特别是中国这种大国,怎末可能进口欧美”社会公理“?小国就无所谓了,实际上很多小国差不多也是欧美文化的殖民地。

对老共而言,欧美”社会公理“不是”先进与落后“的问题(此问题当然就变成民族和阶级斗争问题了,又没有物理试验。。),你老共一和人家讨论这个问题,你就已经输了,因为即使欧美“社会公理”价值》0,0.00001, 那别的不讲,马上就有价了,价不光是钱了,有些类似教廷中国区了。。这和支部建在连上一回事

但问题是你如何证明欧美“社会公理”价值= or 《0?相对于什么?我们自己的孔孟之道?孔孟之道搞了多少年?现在开始再搞一个什么道?从哪里开始?要多少年?

所以邓讲,不争论不讨论,那干啥啊?数数,就是发展硬道理,但数,特别是钱数是要记帐的,记在谁的帐上?如果没有一套可定性定量的社会公理,如何定义国家,社会,民族的帐号?

因此,大概很多老中都认为自己的帐号=三个代表帐号=中国帐号,你如何证伪他们的易经?如何证他们不爱国,不是中国加油? 你好我好大家好.

不好办吧,所以发出去的钱就算了吧,往前看吧, 考虑12。5吧,阻力最小。

有些类似老美,金融精英滔天大罪,一个不抓.

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if 非正交,then 隐参数(blk cat) [ 晓兵 ] 于:2013-02-23 11:55:49 复:3849174

if 非正交 (white cat), then 隐参数 (blk cat), give me something, or u will be fired (:)

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"由于价键轨道的非正交性等原因,价键理论的数学结构依然比分子轨道理论复杂得多,程序比较少,而相同精度的计算往往需要更多计算资源,所以价键理论目前仍然不太常用"

not to mention all kind of the social sciences, where 非正交 languages=programming languages, and very often, the more 非正交, the more "charming" it becomes, such as in case of chinese, I guess.

Are we chinese @top class of social sciences of the world in terms of social sciences, tg thinks so, I guess, at least many of them working in pure marxist social sciences fields, etc.

I don't know, and in a 非正交 world, nobody knows, I guess.

But somebody sounds like they know something in a 非正交 world, with apps of their various "隐参数理论".

In qm, "s-cat" =非正交 =隐参数理论, kind of;

In our genes, I guess, we are always looking for "光明照四方" 理论 with tears in our eyes, particularly when 相變 comes, and 相變 comes almost everyday in this mostly 非正交 social world, and quite bit in physics world as well, or entropy will catch up with us, we have to 演化 or 进化 or just do something.

now "隐参数理论", why 隐? because of its 非正交, and its 能标 requirement is often beyond our reality world, and very often into "god's" world, if u will.

then how do they know, because they have 隐参数理论理论, then can we "trust" them?

1) well, this is the ONLY thing we have 4 u, so go 壟斷, baby.

2) brand name, so once top leaders in social sicences=4 ever top leaders, globally.

etc

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