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家园 西方媒体在拉萨事件报道上太恶心了 [FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/uSQnK5FcKas&hl=en[/FLASH]
家园 该视频不存在 言论自由,领教了
家园 不是 一般地齐心合力呀，恨不得TG乱了手脚，中国立马十分五裂才称心。
德国媒体尤其恶劣，一幅急先锋的样子，其中明镜周刊（Spiegel)尤其无耻，至今不改其诬蔑的言论，反而把华人自发的网上揭批西煤的行为称为zf组织的行动。这种被人当场捉贼被抓贼抓反而倒打一耙的所谓国际一流煤体，让人真正开眼了。
ZT:明镜周刊中文译文
数千个真相的战场-中国的舆论战争，令人吃惊的辩论文化
Christian Stöcker
谎言、宣传造势、目击者的报道：在网络上，西藏危机已经引发了一场在中国人与其敌手间展开的别开生面的舆论大战。一场令人惊异的新的辩论文化，几天之内蔓延到了整个世界。
这是一场头脑的斗争，波及到了一天的24小时，波及到了全世界。眼下，一场激烈的争论正在上演，从一个人到另一个人，从一个大陆到另一个大陆，从文字、 图片，到音乐、视频，一切宣传手段都派上了用场。西藏危机，在互联网上掀起了千层浪：几日之间，网上诞生了一种新的、饶有兴趣的辩论文化。这与文化悲观主 义所设想的场景——眼下德国正有某些预言家将之与互联网挂起钩来——可谓大相径庭。
比如说，Youtube的用户NZKOF在上面上传了一段宣传造势的视频：在激昂的管弦乐伴奏下，这一视频展示了西藏的历史，其中不乏印有所谓事实证据 的文献碑刻，来展示西藏与中国的关系。NZKOF站在哪一边，可谓不言而喻——人们甚至无需观看这段7分钟的视频，因为视频的题目是，“西藏过去是、现在 是，将来也永远是中国的一部分”。约有1百万人观看了这段视频。每秒钟都会有新的评论添加进来，目前共有7万余条。
类似的舆论造势和挑衅，网上大约有100多个——双方都有。这些视频是新式舆论大战的结晶。最先从西藏流传出的拍摄的模模糊糊的街道场景，已可证实,最 近Youtube上汇聚传播的图片之多，没有任何地方可以匹敌，但是，它们的真实性及其真正的意义所在，却让人难以判断。
一段最新的视频将矛头对准了西方媒体，其中也包括《明镜》，它指责西方媒体运用大量虚假图片标题和虚假录像来为自己煽动造势。但是如果仔细考察一下的 话，就不难发现这些指责才是在搞舆论煽动。貌似忠于政府的集团分子，在留言栏中欢呼高叫。引人注意的是，大量Youtube的新注册用户，都是3月17号 或以后才注册的，而且他们只对那里的中国舆论造势视频感兴趣。
上一周，在明镜在线的论坛里，也不同寻常地同样出现了大量新注册的用户。许多新用户激烈地替中国政府在西藏的行为辩护——其他人则在反击。这些新来的讨 论者，部分可能是雇用来的造势力量，另一些则可能是中国的朋友，他们不愿意看到这个国家再次被称为全球邪恶势力的现实。
过去三天内，英文维基百科中与西藏有关的词条，被改动了上百次，有些是汪达尔似的（译者注：汪达尔人属日耳曼民族，公元四到五世纪入侵高卢、西班牙、北 非等地、并攻占罗马，后该词用来比喻野蛮，摧残文化等）——短时间内，他们已经将完整的词条解释，换成了对这个国家、喇嘛以及达赖的辱骂言辞。连达赖喇嘛 的俗家姓名——丹增嘉措，也遭到了他们勤勉不辍的修改。目前，这位诺贝尔和平奖的获得者，被称为了“独裁者”，在其统治下，人民遭到被剜去双眼的刑罚。还 有一些篡改更为愚笨粗俗。
但是不是遍地都是这么低级水平的网络辩论，也有一些促进中国和世界其它地区进行真正对话的努力。
之后就是举例，比如一些Blog等等。还说网上舆论出现了多种声音，从某个侧面也是好事，但有时又充满了洗脑言论、谎言，如何将之与真实的声音区分呢？
http://www.dolc.de/forum/viewthread.php?tid=694054&extra=page%3D2&page=1
家园 楼主RP好呀 惊喜：所有在本帖先送花者得【通宝】一枚
恭喜：你意外获得【西西河通宝】一枚
谢谢：作者意外获得【西西河通宝】一枚
鲜花已经成功送出。
此次送花为【有效送花赞扬，涨乐善、声望】
家园 花楼主，这可是好贴！ 家园 最后一个从拉萨撤离的西方记者在CNN的访谈 Transcript: James Miles interview on Tibet
有预谋的针对汉、回的种族暴乱：
What I saw was calculated targeted violence against an ethnic group, or I should say two ethnic groups, primarily ethnic Han Chinese living in Lhasa, but also members of the Muslim Hui minority in Lhasa. And the Huis in Lhasa control much of the meat industry in the city. Those two groups were singled out by ethnic Tibetans. They marked those businesses that they knew to be Tibetan owned with white traditional scarves. Those businesses were left intact. Almost every single other across a wide swathe of the city, not only in the old Tibetan quarter, but also beyond it in areas dominated by the ethnic Han Chinese. Almost every other business was either burned, looted, destroyed, smashed into, the property therein hauled out into the streets, piled up, burned. It was an extraordinary outpouring of ethnic violence of a most unpleasant nature to watch, which surprised some Tibetans watching it. So they themselves were taken aback at the extent of what they saw. And it was not just targeted against property either. Of course many ethnic Han Chinese and Huis fled as soon as this broke out. But those who were caught in the early stages of it were themselves targeted. Stones thrown at them. At one point, I saw them throwing stones at a boy of maybe around 10 years old perhaps cycling along the street. I in fact walked out in front of them and said stop. It was a remarkable explosion of simmering ethnic grievances in the city.到底谁是带武装的凶煞
I saw them carrying traditional Tibetan swords, I didn't actually see them getting them out and intimidating people with them. But clearly the purpose of carrying them was to scare people. And speaking later to ethnic Han Chinese, that was one point that they frequently drew attention to. That these people were armed and very intimidating.揭穿藏毒“血腥杀戮”的谎言
In fact what we saw, and I was watching it at the earliest stages, was complete inaction on the part of the authorities. It seemed as if they were paralyzed by indecision over how to handle this. The rioting rapidly spread from Beijing Road, this main central thoroughfare of Lhasa, into the narrow alleyways of the old Tibetan quarter. But I didn't see any attempt in those early hours by the authorities to intervene.And what they did instead was let the rioting run its course and it didn't really finish as far as I saw until the middle of the day on the following day on the Saturday, March the 15th.Well this was covering a vast area of the city and I was the only foreign journalist, at least accredited, to ...... But I can do no more really on the basis of what I saw then say there was a probability that some ethnic Chinese were killed in this violence, and also a probability that some Tibetans, Tibetan rioters themselves were killed by members of the security forces. But it's impossible to get the kind of numbers or real first hand evidences necessary to back that up.But what I saw was small groups of Tibetans, and this was on the second day of the protests, throwing stones towards what I assumed to be, and they were slightly out of vision, members of the security forces. I would hear and indeed smell occasional volleys of Tear gas fired back. There clearly was a small scale clash going on between Tibetans and the security forces. But on the second day things had calmed down generally compared with the huge rioting that was going on...on the Friday. And the authorities were responding to these occasional clashes with Tibetans not by moving forward rapidly with either riot police and truncheons and shields, or indeed troops with rifles. But for a long time, just with occasional, with the very occasional round of tear gas, which would send and I could see this, people scattering back into these very, very, narrow and winding alleyways.On the second day we came back to the shops and I saw them picking through the wreckage, tears in their eyes. They were astonished, as I was, at the lack of any security presence on the previous day. I全文虽然还带有西煤对TG特有的偏见，但是，有关暴乱现场的描述是真实、可靠的。
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/03/20/tibet.miles.interview/index.html
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSQnK5FcKas
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家园 【文摘】转移个别人的讲法 把达赖比教皇,这个东西洋人可能比较容易理解.天主教正教新教比班禅达赖的想法有趣.参考一下...
再加句狠的
by 铁匠
中国的民族太复杂，历史太长，你说这个他们不一定能理解。你问他们，如果教皇现在宣布要重新掌管西方各国的政权，并且允诺教皇的政权会带给他们比现在跟民主更自由的社会，他们信不信，愿意不愿意重新回归政教合一的政府管理下让和尚管理国家。
然后你就可以告诉他们，多数藏族人也不支持暴乱，支持暴乱的主要是些支持和尚掌管政权的和尚和宗教极端分子，还有就是趁火打劫的流氓。－以前的宣传好像都有个假设前提，汉族和藏族是对立的，这是不对的，应该让大家感觉，dalai这个和尚政权也是多数藏族自由民的敌人。
我给你提个小策略，对鬼子有用的
by 铁匠
别照别人的套路去辩解，越辩解越糟糕，因为他们的思维定式已经在那里了。所以要出奇兵。
那些反应西藏旧制度黑暗的照片资料要找，但是要做好别人觉得你作假和宣传的心理准备。
然后在材料里加入这点：
dalai并不是西藏唯一的宗教领袖。西藏是个宗教自由的地区，有很多教派，势力最大的是dalai和banchan，dalai代表的是旧宗教势力，在西藏搞野蛮的神权统治（把那些人皮啥的资料跟欧洲中世纪的神权统治结合一下），禁止自由言论，banchan代表的是新势力，因为思想进步而被dalai的军队赶出了西藏，最后跟着解放军才回到了xz.xz在中央政府的主持下成为了一个宗教自由民族平等的世俗家园。现在dalai想重回西藏搞披着民主外衣的神权统治，藏人第一个不答应。
尽量把dalai和banchan跟基督教和新教对比，把dalai想回xz对比成罗马教皇想重新回新教国家掌管政权。因为英国是新教国家，你这么一说他们会有感觉。而且也符合他们的逻辑。
以前我们的宣传最大的毛病就是在潜意识里把汉族和藏族对立起来了，搞得好像dalai真的是xz唯一宗教领袖一样，其实最好的办法是把汉族矛盾转移为多数各族人民和少数神权统治者的矛盾，否则无论你怎么说，别人还会以为你是侵略，因为欧洲是民族国家产生的发源地，他们对多民族国家的概念不深。
类似事情我半年前遇到过，德国总理接见dalai那次，一帮毛子老师学生叽叽咕咕好像是我们侵略一样。我当时告诉他们dalai不是xz唯一领袖，他们都不信，然后我就举东正教和基督教的例子，他们一下就明白了，因为东正教也受西方主流媒体歧视，所以还感同身受（很多西方人以为毛子这里也归罗马教廷管）。然后我又告诉他们lama拿女人做工具修炼，再告诉他们dalai要的独立是所有藏人的居住区都独立，然后拿大芬兰做比较（芬兰极端分子有个类似的大芬兰计划，也是所有芬兰人居住区都要归进去，其中包括彼得堡。），然后等说完，那帮开始还同情xz的毛子基本是一边倒都支持中国政府了。
其实他们有个思维定式，中国是消息封锁的国家，他们的信息比我们多，但真的发现其实我们的信息比他们多的时候，普通人还是愿意听一听的（当然，首先是你要说得象真的，要说他们能理解的。）