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家园 谢谢双石老哥关注，再跟你聊几句实在的 Brian这帮人在美国其实混的挺不如意的。
转业以后一身的病，找不着工作就不说了。
他们做出来的东西，水平不错，质量也不错，对丰富朝鲜战争资料的贡献是几乎可以肯定的了。但是，至少在目前，如果中国人不看的话，估计就没什么人看了。那些视频，Youtube上的点击也就两，三百而已，估计有一半还是我反复点击的结果。
其他美方朝鲜战争的民营机构处境也很类似。
说句不好听的，这朝鲜战争的东西就好比猪蹄子，在美国是应有尽有，几乎不要钱，质量还很好，而在中国，情况恰恰相反。
所以说，抛除现实中官方的限制不讲，咱们国内研究朝鲜战争的环境和相关的市场应该是世界一流的，虽然现在研究水平难讲是几流，但是将来一旦放开，那可干的就太多了。
老哥你的那些资料留好，忙的时候在后面呢。
搞不好你退休以后得比现在忙。
家园 【整理】美国老兵的长津故事（１）四目相对 Brain他们的项目已经接近尾声。
最近，他们贴出了一些片花，都是美国老兵们的自述，其中的故事很生动和真实，有些故事残酷的让人不寒而栗。
半个多世纪过去了，老兵们讲起当年的经历时，表情还是那么的痛苦，英语里有个词叫traumatized，我觉得形容他们很贴切。
看来他们在长津一战中恶梦般的经历将陪着他们直到坟墓。
为河里的气氛着想，我只贴出视频和我整理的英文脚本。
中文翻译就不准备提供了，想知道的自然会看明白。
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Abrams,East of Chosin
Jerry Abrams, M 3/31
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/Kgt2iIWtxWo[/FLASH]
We were hit from all over now. I mean from all sides. I kept saying where the hell is our artillery? Where is our mortars? Where is our air power? Where is anything? There was nothing. Nothing!
So this night the Chinese really hit us hard. In fact I remember when they jumped into my hole, I don’t know if it was Jockey Hung or I don’t know who the other two guys they jumped in my hole as well. The chink had two grenades. He threw one grenade in and I grabbed him and pulled him in and shot him with my 45. And I was trying to reach his grenade to throw it out. It just plunked me along the hand a little bit. Because I think the chink got the blast of everything. His body must’ve fallen right on that grenade. But it must’ve been a very brave man. He did what he had to do. He knocked out our gun placement temporarily.
And as a result, we lost that position and now we were pulling back. And as I was pulling back, two chinks （？）wore the magmi（？）（感谢马大善人指点，此处很可能是＂were (at) the back of me ＂） and they opened fire. One hit me in the back. But I didn’t realize. I felt the impact. And I turned around and I bumped eyeball to eyeball with the other chink. We were just face to face. He had his submachine gun. I got the best of him. I grabbed his submachine gun and gave him a good left hook in the face. And hit him with the submachine gun. And started just continue pull back. I mean bullets are flying all over. You can feel them hitting the ice or the snow and just flapping all over the place.
关键词(Tags): #长津湖，家园 were in the back of me 家园 怎么没被志愿军叔叔扁死 家园 这是自然选择的结果 那些被志愿军干掉的yankee就没机会上youtube宣扬我天朝的神武了， 呵呵。。。能活下来上youtube扯淡的基本上都是些幸运儿
家园 老东西真是狗嘴吐不出象牙 老东西还chink chink的叫，当时打的真是不够狠
还有，美国兵对于敌方的污蔑也的确见得不少了。见过不要脸的也没见过这么不要脸的。
果然如某位河友（抱歉记不清了）讲的：“美国人就是输不起的下三滥！”
家园 没必要过度解读 就跟我们说美国鬼子一样。在这里没有轻蔑的意思。这个老兵说：他一定是个勇敢的人。他做了他必须做的事。他暂时击倒了我们的火力点。结果我们失去阵地开始后撤。
家园 【原创】 几张照片，一点感想 Brian 他们的博客里，有几张照片挺引人注目的：
外链图片需谨慎，可能会被源头改Howard Mason, Able Company （A连）
他手上纹的是：Hold Fast (坚守)
老头曾是美军陆战队员，但是手上纹的这两个字，倒是在我们部队的军史里常见。
外链图片需谨慎，可能会被源头改Adam, Brian, and Ed (K Company, 31st Regiment)
Ed的部队就是在我们军史上有名的战果：北极熊团（美７师３１团），长津一战，这支部队被大部歼灭，尽管他们后来在上甘岭和志愿军打的也算英勇，但是每当提起这支部队，人们想到最多的还是他们被缴获的军旗。
上面这张照片，初看起来没觉得有什么，但是细看之下，发现老兵Ed是位伤残军人，坐的也是轮椅。
能在身负重伤的情况下幸存下来，Ed的命还是很硬的，下面就是Brian 他们的博客里对Ed获救经过的大致概述。
After the convoy was ambushed and halted, Chinese Communist Forces burned all of the wounded alive in thethe back of the trucks. To make a long story short, Ed miraculously survived after being shot in the head, beaten, and left for dead with no winter clothing in 40-below temperatures. He made his way to the ice on the reservoir where he was saved by LtCol Beale and some other Marines who had driven through enemy lines in jeeps to recover as many survivors from the 31st as possible. We spent almost three hours talking with Ed and we were honored to be welcomed into his home today.如果上面内容全部出自Ed本人的话，如果他所说的也都是事实的话，那么，我只能说，战争真的是非常残酷的，最好别太绝对了。
在过去的５０多年里，不知道Ed是如何渡过的，上面的照片就是在他家里拍的，看来他的晚年还算安逸。
在Brian他们博客最新的一个贴子里，我看到了下面这段话：
We will be done on the west coast soon, and although we have been here only a few weeks, it feels like forever. Adam found out today that his youngest daughter took her first steps while he was here helping us on the film. His wife sent him pictures. Brian's son began crawling, and he is already trying to walk. While we all feel that this project is incredibly important, these two guys and their families are really sacrificing a lot to make sure the film is made and the story of The Chosin Few is told. But if we don't do it, who will?没人能够随随便便成功，自己的事情还得靠自己去去扎扎实实的做。
本帖一共被 2 帖 引用 (帖内工具实现)家园 值得期待的事情 希望楼主能跟踪完整，花谢！
家园 凡是长津湖的帖子都要顶一下， 家园 难啊, 有差别的也不单是这一个角落而已 钱, 闲, 研究基础, 表达空间, 都有所不如
如果真要做的话, 也许可以找些企业来支持, 可能有些老总感兴趣, 而且其实对大家都有好处
家园 谢宝 谢谢：作者意外获得【通宝】一枚
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