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      • 家园 用加拿大的例子

        年收入在6500一下的免征;这以上的加上七七八八的减免,实际上2万以下实际上也不会交什么税;但更好的一般就逃不掉了。

        中国的个人所得税最大的问题是财产不实名制,这就很难“秋后算帐”式地收税。现在好像是发钱的时候直接截留税款,但也留了很大的缺口,尤其对不是工资收入的人。

        加拿大的银行账户或者财产都是实名的。

        • 家园 这个咋没人叫嚷与世界接轨呢?

          加拿大的银行账户或者财产都是实名的。

        • 家园 联邦的免税额度好像过万了吧。

          难道阿省不一样?我一直以为阿尔伯塔税最低的。

        • 家园 a few comments on Canada's

          tax system.

          年收入在6500一下的免征;这以上的加上七七八八的减免,实际上2万以下实际上也不会交什么税;

          --Canadian provincial/federal INCOME tax system is designed to minimize burden for low-income people. Actually there are many REFUNDABLE tax credits (like free cash) for low-income people IN ADDITION TO MONTHLY WELFARE CHECKS under all kinds of different welfare programs. Canadian income tax is designed to be very nice to poor ones, bad to middle-class families and extremely mean to high-income families(but they know how to plan and minimize INCOME TAX).

          Esp., when the tax system is compared with the American federal income tax system.

          BTW, you should not generalize from Alberta to cover the whole Canada. Unlike U.S., in Canada, most income tax revenue goes to provincial government, and federal gov. is much weaker (compared with U.S. federal gov.) in terms of the share in the income tax revenue pool.

          That explains why Canadian is actually a conferation of sovereign nations, not a modern nation like US with a strong central gov. Anyway, that's the model picked by Canada's founding fathers.

          中国的个人所得税最大的问题是财产不实名制,这就很难“秋后算帐”式地收税。现在好像是发钱的时候直接截留税款,但也留了很大的缺口,尤其对不是工资收入的人。

          --wrong. not 个人所得税最大的问题, actually a weakness in the WHOLE TAXATION SYSTEM. When you can not identify owernship of properties, YOU ACTUALLY COULD NOT get another source of revenue: tax revenue based on WEALTH/PROPERTIES (such as real estate tax, capital gain tax and death tax--or in U.S., it is called estate tax; BTW, death tax used to exist in Canada and was eliminated in early 1970s).

          Therefore, China's treasury department taxes heavily on LABOR EARNED income (against middle-class and average labor), Corporate INCOME and VALUE in distribution process (VAT), but taxes 0 on WEALTH BASES(from rich and super rich families).

          Put in another way: China is like America/Canada before 1900s--super nice to capitalists/rich families/big land owners/property owners, but mean to LABOR.

          This will only drive up more wealth disparity in the society and overburden the middle-class families, the pillar of ANY PEACEFUL society.

          Now you see where Canada's social harmony (HE XIE) comes from. China is just another Latin America, on a large scale and lots of Chinese are still day dreaming when they are already downgraded from middle-class to underdogs.

          通宝推:小八顿,
        • 家园 银行的征信系统就是现在主要的数据库

          包括现在实行的地产调控,也是靠这套系统进行统计,个人名下几套住房都有,当然这个系统也不算完整。不过个人去存款、个人名下的房子、车子都是可以查到的。

          我的看法是未来中国以家庭为单位计税的话,实际上打击面更大,比如家庭3个人,2个劳动力一个1万收入,养一个小孩,这样一年的家庭收入是12万,如果是5000以下免征,他们不交税,而按照家庭为单位,这肯定是要交税的。

          • 家园 按家庭计算是要算人头的

            在加拿大,夫妻两人只有一人工作的话,每人免税额6500(大概数,每年要变),两人就是13000。未成年人不交税,也就不算入。但未成年人要是有收入(自己打工或者信托基金收入),那也按纳税人处理,也有6500的免税额。

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