主题：【新闻关注】中国首次并用陆海空赴利比亚撤侨 -- 葡萄
家园 克林顿放话要求上校马上离开利比亚 并要在日内瓦与欧洲商讨 "Now is the time for action, not just statements," Lieberman said.意大利外交部长声称作为一个国家的利比亚已经不存在了。印度这次在安理会投票中也是超级积极，还不满意决议的措辞啥的。搞不好中国要给撇开了。
企图先入关者为王这是没可能的但如果操作的好的话分一杯羹还是可以的。利比亚的反对派政府（委员会？）今天也正式成立了，声称已经控制了国家百分八十的地盘。上校估计坚持不了多久了。
上海据说今天也出现了“革命”。
家园 上海人民现身说法 人民广场是上海最大的地铁中转站，好像有18个出口，每个出口来来往往的人流量都很大。就等一个1分钟的红绿灯，路口两边就能瞬间出现上百的人群。在这种情况下要拍张ms“革命”的照片太容易了。
上海22日和27日是有人想要闹闹事，在大光明和来福士门口给路人发茉莉花，根本没人鸟他们。赶地铁的赶地铁，看电影的看电影，谈恋爱的谈恋爱，大家都很忙，没时间搞革命
- 复 上海人民现身说法
家园 我们都希望社会稳定国家繁荣 但中国只有一个上海啊 我跟在上海做生意的老乡聊天，有个故事是讲九几年的时候有一个人大代表到他的店铺问“税收多少有什么费用都交了什么钱有没有发票”后面搞的一个多收钱的工商局干部提了两瓶酒登门道歉。别说上个世纪九十年代，就是现在，我这里的人大代表会这么做吗？其它地方的呢？你可能不了解全国其它地方的政治运作是怎么回事，但我可以负责任地讲跟上海是完全两样的，只有野蛮的程度和黑心的程度上的差别，不信的话你去各地的信访办去调研下，去接触下其它地方的警察法官。白浪滔天前天讲了一句“越是小地方越没地方说理”，这是让人非常痛苦的实话。
当然，我讲这些不是为了鼓噪什么革命，我不认为革命能解决什么问题（不论是四九年已遂的那次还是现在未遂的茉莉花），但我希望我们的政治家能够对这个国家有清醒的认识有创新的思维思想来快速而平稳地推进这个国家的变革和发展进步－－朝着公正、公平、法治、自由、开放、合理的方向，否则我们曾经发生过的和中东北非正在发生就必然会再度在中国上演，到时我们可能就无法嘲弄那些分发茉莉花的人了。
即使是那些分发茉莉花的人，即使我们不赞同他们的主张，我也希望我们能够以宽容、尊重和客观的态度去倾听他们的苦衷和诉求，这比无数次的杀警杀小孩杀无辜路人自杀自焚同归于尽的要好。不满、痛苦、愤怒、绝望和悲哀的气氛在这个社会的蔓延而不是相反的话，这个社会就始终充满着颠覆的种种可能，我们能走出那条周而复始的革命（造反）之路吗？
家园 花一下。可以从别人流出的血中吸取教训，这是多么大的幸运。
家园 不要妖言惑众，上海革个P啊 我就在上海，窗口就可以看到人民广场，天天太平得很，就两破人，天天YY别人革命，自己看热闹。有本事自己上啊，扯大旗啊，大家还也可以去围观围观，多喜乐啊。
家园 有图有真相，但是要翻墙 http://news.wenxuecity.com/messages/201102/news-gb2312-1291865.html
家园 看到了，这也叫集会？？ 一位上海网民报道说，27日下午上海声势很大，围观集会的人数至少是上次的十几二十倍。
他说，在汉口路教堂前面一段路一度聚集一两千人，一有抓人行动或其他动静人群就开始起哄骚动，警察哨声和人群起哄乱成一片。
警察制止民众拍照，这位网民说他在对面马路拍照时被警察看到，两个警察把他拖带到一旁，要求必须删除。
警察还说，“一群无聊的人没事找事，你若继续参与就把你带到警局去”。
这是所谓上面网站的原文，正如这个警察说的："一群无聊的人没事找事".
有几张照片，也没看到有几个无聊的人在哪里没事找事，也没有旗子、没有标语、没有焚烧、没有石头、没有番茄、没有鸡蛋。什么也没有。围观的观众到有很多，这没办法，中国人（上海人）就喜欢看热闹，两个人当街吵架都能围个水泄不通。上面也说了，围观的人多了10几倍，有猴子看，还是免费的，谁不看啊，可惜猴子不上劲，没胆量来耍啊。
在上海，就这种没胆量，没骨气，没纲领，没目标、没领袖，没献身精神的人还想闹起来，还真不是小看他们，而是彻底看不起他们。
家园 China tamps down Middle East China tamps down Middle East-inspired protests before they can gain momentumhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/27/AR2011022700606.htmlVideo
China police prevent demonstrations
Large numbers of police - and new tactics like shrill whistles and street cleaning trucks - squelched overt protests in China for a second Sunday after more calls for peaceful gatherings modeled on recent movements in the Middle East. (Feb. 27)
LAUNCH VIDEO PLAYER
Network News
X Profile
View More Activity
Your Feedback
Corrections, suggestions?
TOOLBOX
Resize
Print
E-mail
Yahoo! Buzz
Reprints
COMMENT
79 Comments | View All
POST A COMMENT
You must be logged in to leave a comment. Log in | Register
Why Do I Have to Log In Again?
Log In Again?
CLOSE
We've made some updates to washingtonpost.com's Groups, MyPost and comment pages. We need you to verify your MyPost ID by logging in before you can post to the new pages. We apologize for the inconvenience.
Discussion Policy
Your browser's settings may be preventing you from commenting on and viewing comments about this item. See instructions for fixing the problem.
Discussion Policy
CLOSE
Comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions. You are fully responsible for the content that you post.
By Keith B. Richburg
Washington Post Foreign Service
Monday, February 28, 2011; 1:33 AM
BEIJING - Police and security officials displayed a show of force here and in other Chinese cities Sunday, trying to snuff out any hint of protests modeled on the uprisings in the Middle East and North Africa. In Shanghai, several hundred people trying to gather were dispersed with a water truck.
This Story
*
Libya rebels, regime loyalists in standoff
*
A setback for business-friendly Bahrain
*
Outside Yemen's capital, anger and grievances run deep
*
Morocco protests fail to take hold
*
In Libya, an unlikely hero of a youth-led revolution
*
Egypt bans Mubarak from travel, freezes assets
*
Egyptian police try to recover from reputation for brutality
*
China tamps down Middle East-inspired protests before they can gain momentum
*
U.S. freezes Libyan assets, takes steps to aid refugees
*
Egypt- and Tunisia-inspired protests spread through Middle East, North Africa
*
Moammar Gaddafi through the years
View All Items in This Story
View Only Top Items in This Story
This Story
*
More skirmishes in Libya as U.S., Europe ratchet up pressure
*
Former radio engineer in Libya using newfound freedom
*
Pressure for change builds across Arab world
*
Regional unrest
*
EU votes to sanction Libya as Clinton mounts diplomatic offensive
*
Tunisians celebrate prime minister's resignation after round-the-clock protests
*
In Cairo, schools reopen, uncertainty remains
*
Iraqi PM Maliki pledges reform after 'Day of Rage'
*
North Korea threatens 'firing attacks' on South over leaflets about Mideast turmoil
*
Protests in Algeria, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Morocco, Tunisia and Yemen
View All Items in This Story
View Only Top Items in This Story
Premier Wen Jiabao, meanwhile, used a morning Internet chat to promise to purge senior officials who are corrupt and to rein in inflation and rising home prices, directly addressing some of the most common grievances of ordinary Chinese.
Since a January uprising in Tunisia spurred similar anti-government protests across the Arab world, threatening long-entrenched authoritarian regimes, China's Communist rulers have reacted nervously, with both defensive and aggressive tactics.
Officials have used state-run media outlets to dismiss any comparisons of those regimes with China. At the same time, they have stepped up public comments on the need to address "social conflict" and to tackle problems such as the growing income disparity between the rich and poor. They also have detained a number of activists and human rights lawyers and blocked Internet search terms considered sensitive, such as "Egypt," "Tunisia" and even U.S. Ambassador Jon Huntsman Jr.'s Chinese name. And they have issued warnings to foreign journalists to be mindful of reporting restrictions.
A previously unknown group has used an overseas-based Chinese-language Web site to call for a series of peaceful, silent protests - named "jasmine rallies" after the Tunisian uprising - on consecutive Sunday afternoons in cities across China. The rallies were called for heavily trafficked commercial areas, public squares and parks, ostensibly so silent protesters could blend in with ordinary passersby to avoid arrest.
However, police on Sunday were out in huge numbers in Beijing, Shanghai and other cities at the sites where the rallies were supposed to take place. Blue-uniformed police officers and security volunteers with red armbands lined the streets in Beijing's Wangfujing area. The bustling commercial street, with a McDonald's and a Gap store, is close to the Forbidden City and Tiananmen Square, the site where hundreds of Chinese pro-democracy demonstrators were killed in 1989 when tanks rolled in to quash a six-week student-led protest. On Sunday, policemen patrolled with German shepherds and a water truck normally used for street cleaning traversed back and forth.
ad_icon
Click here!
Police in Beijing stopped some foreigners and asked for identification, turning away journalists from entering the area. At 2:30 p.m., about a half-hour after the scheduled start of the silent protest walk, officers blocked off the entrance to Wangfujing Street with police tape. The unusually heavy police presence attracted curious onlookers, who snapped pictures with cellphone cameras. At Wangfujing, a foreign journalist shooting video for a news agency was reportedly punched and kicked in the face by plainclothes Chinese security officers who confiscated his camera. The Foreign Correspondents Club of China reported that more than a dozen other journalists were roughed up at the site.
At the Peace Cinema in Shanghai, opposite the People's Square near the city's main municipal building, a few hundred people tried to gather. Policemen used whistles and loudspeakers to keep the crowd moving, and police converged whenever a group of more than a dozen people appeared to be forming. A street-cleaning vehicle spraying bursts of water also kept crowds at bay.
Some people in Shanghai said they heard about the "jasmine rally" and came to see if there would be any public speaker. Some openly complained about government corruption and the need for an opening of the system.
"I came here today to see how people protest against the government, which is corrupt and rules in an authoritarian way," said a 71-year-old man who asked that only his family name, Cao, be used. "Democracy is the trend in the world. No country in the world can be an exception to the process."
Cao said the Communist Party in China was so strong that he expected reform would have to come from within the system.
"For those fighting against the government, it is like eggs hitting the stone," Cao said. "With 10, 100, 1,000 and 10,000 eggs hitting the stone, the eggs will eventually succeed."
家园 印度这种表演没什么意思 这种情况就是随大流，还得表现得不情愿才是高招。中东还有那么多没倒的独裁政权呢！像沙特，你国里一乱就马上让人下台人怎么想？比较起来，印度就一跳梁，TG才是厚道人。
家园 是讲印度和黎巴嫩认为决议的措辞不够激烈不够震慑独裁者 美国和欧洲的军事行动现在已经是呼之欲出了。意大利已经撕毁跟利比亚才签两年的互不侵犯协议。现在就像2003年美国攻打伊拉克的前夕，就看我们能抢到多少份额了。
这种情况就是随大流，还得表现得不情愿才是高招看新闻上我们的大使就是讲我们是考虑到了非盟和阿盟的意见才投的赞成票。但这样子（不情愿），利比亚反对派的民心不是给美国人夺去了？看克林顿的讲话"But we've been reaching out to many different Libyans who are attempting to organize in the east and as the revolution moves westward there as well. I think it's way too soon to tell how this is going to play out, but we're going to be ready and prepared to offer any kind of assistance that anyone wishes to have from the United States," she said.法国已经开始支援利比亚反对派了France will send two planeloads of medical aid to the Libyan city of Benghazi, held by opponents of Muammar Gaddafi, marking the start of a humanitarian operation, Prime Minister Francois Fillon said on Monday.家园 这叫不情愿么？ 看新闻上我们的大使就是讲我们是考虑到了非盟和阿盟的意见才投的赞成票。如果要说不情愿，那得说我本来想投弃权票或反对票。
家园 说得就是印度跳梁啊！呵呵 这种国际政治，人心冷暖，还是TG玩的地道。利比亚现在谁上台都那么回事，表现得再欢，没银子也没用，最后还得找TG来。没看到阿富汗前面美军开路后面TG开矿吗？呵呵
但在别的国家当政者眼里看得就不一样了，噢你们几个丫的人没下台呢就猛踩，心寒哪！相比之下TG这种心不甘情不愿的表演才到位