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    • 家园 北车是不是又犯了唐老鸭式的错误?

      看故障的表现及他们的解释(推给供货商),想起了唐老鸭。

    • 家园 铁路职工的人心要是散了是最大的危险
    • 家园 出离愤怒了!

      铁道部整的是啥幺蛾子?

      家人不喜欢坐火车,在我力劝下今天坐了动车,结果出发就晚了20多分钟,现在晚点了一个多小时还没到目的地,耽误了安排好的事情。这个晚点难道也是技术不过关引起的?!

      最近铁道部的管理松弛,有员工自己在高铁上吸烟的,也有成群的员工躺在车厢里睡觉的。降速除了把我们赶到飞机上之外,还有啥作用?我不认为降速就可以保证安全。

    • 家园 资料:调查“挑战者号”失事的“总统委员会”成员

      查到一个调查86年“挑战者号”失事的“总统委员会”的名单。摘自:

      STS 51-L Mission Overview and Preface to Presidential Commission Report on the Challenger Accident

      委员会成员:

      1.William P. Rogers, Chairman

      主席,尼克松的国务卿,艾森豪威尔的大法官,现在(86年时,以下的“现在”都是86年)某律师楼的合伙人和执业律师。获得1973年自由奖章。1937年获康奈尔学位,42年到46年在海军服务。

      (感到奇怪啊,主席竟然是个律师)

      Former Secretary of State under President Nixon (1969-1973), and Attorney General under President Eisenhower (1957-1961), currently a practicing attorney and senior partner in the law firm of Rogers & Wells. Born in Norfolk, New York, he was awarded the Medal of Freedom in 1973. He holds a J.D. from Cornell University (1937) and served as LCDR, U.S. Navy (1942-1946).

      2.Neil A. Armstrong, Vice Chairman

      副主席,前宇航员,就是实现阿波罗11号第一次登月飞行的那位,大名鼎鼎,不多写了。

      Former astronaut, currently Chairman of the Board of Computing

      Technologies for Aviation, Inc. Born in Wapakoneta, Ohio, Mr. Armstrong was spacecraft commander for Apollo 11, July 16-24, 1969,the first manned lunar landing mission. He was Professor of Aeronautical Engineering at the University of Cincinnati from 1971 to 1980 and was appointed to the National Commission on Space in 1985.

      3.David C. Acheson

      卫星通讯公司的前高级VP和总法律顾问,现在某律师楼的合伙人。原来美国原子能委员会的律师,哈佛毕业,曾服务于海军。

      (呵呵,又一个律师)

      Former Senior Vice President and General Counsel, Communications Satellite Corporation (1967-1974), currently a partner in the law firm of Drinker Biddle & Reath. Born in Washington, DC, he previously served as an attorney with the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (1948-1950) and was U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia (1961-1965). He holds an LL.B. from Harvard University (1948) and served as LT, U.S. Navy (1942-1946).

      4.Dr. Eugene E. Covert

      教育家和工程师,MIT宇航系的教授系主任,国家工程学会会员,美国空军杰出服务奖(1973),NASA的公共服务奖(1980)。MIT科学博士学位。

      Educator and engineer. Born in Rapid City, South Dakota, he is currently Professor and Head, Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics, at Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Member of the National Academy of Engineering, he was a recipient of the Exceptional Civilian Service Award, USAF, in 1973 and the NASA Public Service Award in 1980. He holds a Doctorate in Science from Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

      5.Dr. Richard P. Feynman

      这就是fakeone说的做报告的物理学家了。加州理工的理论物理教授(唐骏不就想沾人一点光吗),1965年诺贝尔物理奖,1954年爱因斯坦奖,还有个什么大奖(1972年,抱歉孤陋寡闻),尼尔斯波尔国际金奖(1973年),普林斯顿的PhD(1942)

      Physicist. Born in New York City, he is Professor of Theoretical Physics at California Institute of Technology. Nobel Prize winner in Physics, 1965, he also received the Einstein Award in 1954, the Oersted Medal in 1972 and the Niels Bohr International Gold Medal in 1973. He holds a Doctorate in Physics from Princeton (1942).

      6.Robert B. Hotz

      编辑出版家,西北大学毕业。航空周刊和空间技术杂志的主编(1953-1980),二战时参加空军获得一堆橡树叶的空军奖章。1982年起是裁军和军控委员会的总顾问。

      Editor, publisher. Born in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. He is a graduate of Northwestern University. He was the editor-in-chief of Aviation Week & Space Technology magazine (1953-1980). He served in the Air Force in World War II and was awarded the Air Medal with Oak Leaf Cluster. Since 1982, he has been a member of the General Advisory Committee to the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency.

      7.Major General Donald J. Kutyna, USAF

      这是现役空军少将,空间系统指令控制通讯主任。毕业于美国军事学院,MIT的科学硕士(1965),超过4000飞行小时的指令长。获得过杰出服务奖章,杰出飞行十字勋章,还有个什么奖以及其他9个空军奖章。

      Director of Space Systems and Command, Control, Communications. Born in Chicago, Illinois, and graduate of the U.S. Military Academy, he holds a Master of Science degree from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1965). A command pilot with over 4,000 flight hours, he is a recipient of the Distinguished Service Medal, Distinguished Flying Cross, Legion of Merit and nine air medals.

      8.Dr. Sally K. Ride

      美国第一个女宇航员。1983年6月18日STS-7飞行的mission specialist。参加了84年10月5号的41-G飞行。斯坦福的PhD(1978年)。现役宇航员。

      Astronaut. Born in Los Angeles, California, she was a mission specialist on STS-7, launched on June 18, 1983, becoming the first American woman in space. She also flew on mission 41-G launched October 5, 1984. She holds a Doctorate in Physics from Stanford University (1978) and is still an active astronaut.

      9.Robert W. Rummel

      空间专家航天工程师。原Trans World航空公司VP,现在是一个什么公司的总裁。国家工程学会的成员,获得NASA杰出公共服务奖。

      (这个没提学位。自学成才?)

      Space expert and aerospace engineer. Born in Dakota, Illinois, and former Vice President of Trans World Airlines, he is currently President of Robert W. Rummel Associates, Inc., of Mesa, Arizona. He is a member of the National Academy of Engineering and is holder of the NASA Distinguished Public Service Medal.

      10.Joseph F. Sutter

      航天工程师。现在波音商用飞机的执行VP。从1945年就在波音工作,三代喷气飞机的主要设计师。84年被选到全国工程学会,85年被里根总统授予国家技术奖。

      (这个全国工程学会很牛叉)

      Aeronautical engineer. Currently Executive Vice President of the Boeing Commercial Airplane Company. Born in Seattle, he has been with Boeing since 1945 and was a principal figure in the development of three generations of jet aircraft. In 1984, he was elected to the National Academy of Engineering. In 1985, President Reagan conferred on him the U.S. National Medal of Technology.

      11.Dr. Arthur B. C. Walker, Jr.

      天文学家。斯坦福的应用物理教授,原研究生院副院长。宇航公司、兰德公司和国家科学基金会咨询专家。美国物理学会、美国地理联盟、美国天文学会会员。伊利诺斯大学博士(1962)。

      Astronomer. Born in Cleveland, Ohio, he is currently Professor of Applied Physics and was formerly Associate Dean of the Graduate Division at Stanford University. Consultant to Aerospace Corporation, Rand Corporation and the National Science Foundation, he is a member of the American Physical Society, American Geophysical Union, and the American Astronomy Society. He holds a Doctorate in Physics from the University of Illinois (1962).

      12.Dr. Albert D. Wheelon

      物理学家,休斯飞机公司执行副总裁。总统外国情报咨询委员会成员,1961到1974年是总统科学咨询委员会的咨询专家,MIT的物理博士(1952年)。

      Physicist. Born in Moline, Illinois, he is currently Executive Vice President, Hughes Aircraft Company. Also a member of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board, he served as a consultant to the President's Science Advisory Council from 1961 to 1974. He holds a Doctorate in Physics from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (1952).

      13.Brigadier General Charles Yeager, USAF (Retired)

      空军退役准将,前试飞员。85年被指定为国家空间委员会成员。是第一个突破音障并把飞机开到每小时1600迈(每小时2500公里)的人。

      Former experimental test pilot. Born in Myra, West Virginia, he was appointed in 1985 as a member of the National Commission on Space. He was the first person to penetrate the sound barrier and the first to fly at a speed of more than 1,600 miles an hour.

      14.Dr. Alton G. Keel, Jr., Executive Director

      这就是个打杂的,端茶倒水的凳公的角色。也是个UVA工程物理PhD。

      Detailed to the Commission from his position in the Executive Office of the President, Office of Management and Budget, as Associate Director for National Security and International Affairs; formerly Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Research, Development and Logistics; and Senate Staff. Born in Newport News, Virginia, he holds a Doctorate in Engineering Physics from the University of Virginia (1970).

      其他还有一堆助理人员。

      这个委员会共14人,与事故直接有关的有:两个宇航员,一个试飞员,一个指令长,以及两个个工程师和一个设计师。其他物理、天文学家有3个,两个律师,一个媒体一个打杂。

    • 家园 这和我们一个样啊,四不放过!

      这种分析会一般要达到四个目的:明确原因、定性定责、教育并惩罚相关责任人,制订整改措施。

      事故原因不明确不放过!

      事故责任不明确不放过!

      责任人不受教育不放过!

      整改措施不落实不放过!

    • 家园 所以这次是设计错误?
      • 家园 要真是设计缺陷的话,全国的高铁在补上漏洞前都得停运

        否则谁能保证哪条路上不打雷?何况故障倒向安全是基本原则,我不相信整个铁路系统坚持了几十年的这点基本原则现在被打破了。

        现在看来,高铁不停说明设备没有根本性的问题(如果有,降速解决不了问题),所以通号院及其他只是背了黑锅而已。

        • 家园 有漏洞,任何系统难免的,哪个大系统敢说自己的设计没漏洞

          关键是,出了故障怎么办,要靠管理,靠规章。现在看,如果遇到闭塞故障,改站间闭塞或者该区间改目视行车,都能保证安全。结论是不用停运,边开边改即可。

          对了,某些人说只要降速就好了跑200就没事了,殊不知撞了那车只开120而已~~~~~~~~~~~

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