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家园 欧洲好歹有个欧盟

历史上欧洲各国战争不少,可为什么打仗呢?还不是因为利益攸关。因为利益能打就能和。日本身边只有同中国合作才有可能顶住美国的压力,不过这个大块头个头太大,真合作起来日本只能当小弟。不谈历史恩怨,这个也足够让日本踌躇一阵子了。

看看这次怎么收场吧,日本再被捞一票是必然的,得利的是中国还是美国倒是走着瞧。平心而论,日本战后的发展本来就有美国扶植的因素在内,人家能扶你,自然就能刮你,不奇怪。

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To the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate:

As economists, we want to express to Congress our great concern for the plan proposed by Treasury Secretary Paulson to deal with the financial crisis. We are well aware of the difficulty of the current financial situation and we agree with the need for bold action to ensure that the financial system continues to function. We see three fatal pitfalls in the currently proposed plan:

1) Its fairness. The plan is a subsidy to investors at taxpayers’ expense. Investors who took risks to earn profits must also bear the losses. Not every business failure carries systemic risk. The government can ensure a well-functioning financial industry, able to make new loans to creditworthy borrowers, without bailing out particular investors and institutions whose choices proved unwise.

2) Its ambiguity. Neither the mission of the new agency nor its oversight are clear. If taxpayers are to buy illiquid and opaque assets from troubled sellers, the terms, occasions, and methods of such purchases must be crystal clear ahead of time and carefully monitored afterwards.

3) Its long-term effects. If the plan is enacted, its effects will be with us for a generation. For all their recent troubles, Americas dynamic and innovative private capital markets have brought the nation unparalleled prosperity. Fundamentally weakening those markets in order to calm short-run disruptions is desperately short-sighted.

For these reasons we ask Congress not to rush, to hold appropriate hearings, and to carefully consider the right course of action, and to wisely determine the future of the financial industry and the U.S. economy for years to come.

Signed

Acemoglu Daron (Massachussets Institute of Technology)

Adler Michael (Columbia University)

Admati Anat R. (Stanford University)

Alvarez Fernando (University of Chicago)

Andersen Torben (Northwestern University)

Beim David (Columbia University)

Berk Jonathan (Stanford University)

Bisin Alberto (New York University)

Boldrin Michele (Washington University)

Buera Francisco J.(UCLA)

Cassar Gavin (University of Pennsylvania)

Chaney Thomas (University of Chicago)

Chauvin Keith W. (University of Kansas)

Chintagunta Pradeep K. (University of Chicago)

Christiano Lawrence J. (Northwestern University)

Cochrane John (University of Chicago)

Coleman John (Duke University)

Constantinides George M. (University of Chicago)

Crain Robert (UC Berkeley)

De Marzo Peter (Stanford University)

Dubé Jean-Pierre H. (University of Chicago)

Edlin Aaron (UC Berkeley)

Ely Jeffrey (Northwestern University)

Faulhaber Gerald (University of Pennsylvania)

Fox Jeremy T. (University of Chicago)

Fuchs William (University of Chicago)

Gao Paul (Notre Dame University)

Garicano Luis (University of Chicago)

Gerakos Joseph J. (University of Chicago)

Gibbs Michael (University of Chicago)

Goettler Ron (University of Chicago)

Goldin Claudia (Harvard University)

Guadalupe Maria (Columbia University)

Hansen Lars (University of Chicago)

Harris Milton (University of Chicago)

Hart Oliver (Harvard University)

Hazlett Thomas W. (George Mason University)

Heaton John (University of Chicago)

Heckman James (University of Chicago - Nobel Laureate)

Henisz, Witold (University of Pennsylvania)

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Hitsch Günter J. (University of Chicago)

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Jaffee Dwight M. (UC Berkeley)

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Jones Charles M. (Columbia Business School)

Kaboski Joseph P. (Ohio State University)

Kaplan Ethan (Stockholm University)

Karolyi, Andrew (Ohio State University)

Kashyap Anil (University of Chicago)

Ketkar Suhas L (Vanderbilt University)

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Sorensen Morten (Columbia University)

Spiegel Matthew (Yale University)

Stevenson Betsey (University of Pennsylvania)

Stokey Nancy (University of Chicago)

Strahan Philip (Boston College)

Strebulaev Ilya (Stanford University)

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Tschoegl Adrian E. (University of Pennsylvania)

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家园 真正的一场争夺拯救者的扮演者的游戏开始了

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家园 说经济基础与上层建筑之间的矛盾更贴切.

看来中国是需要在两个轮子之间安装差速器,否则一个轮子太快必定会拖跨另外一个,特别是经济这个轮子的驱动是由近乎自然规律的市场规律,而另外一个是人为设计的机制,孰快孰慢一目了然.

举一个例子,在经济这个轮子里运转的人就象每天被狼追着一样,睁开眼就要跑,睡觉的时候也得保持警惕;在政治这个体系的轮子里运转的人就象动物园的狼一样每天看看哪里有利益可以咬上一口,问题是这个狼不追也饿不死,追是为了吃的更好.动力不一样,结果自然就不一样.

家园 我觉得不可能

除非物理学有突破性进展。这跟大航海毕竟差的太远。

家园 如此说来

社会福利的意义就是为了不让野狼太饿?

家园 (下):几乎必然的X谋论结果之五

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本帖一共被 3 帖 引用 (帖内工具实现)
家园 首花

然后再看

家园 当然不是了.

狼们哪里把那点福利看在眼里啊,狼和狼的待遇也是很不一样的,也有家狼和野狼的分别的.对于从温饱不保的野狼刚变成有福利待遇的自然满足,但是对于习惯有保障的几代家养(不如说国养)太子狼们,既不想拼命地跑,又想和拼命跑的享受一样的待遇,就要利用两个轮子的关联性来制造好处,于是乎权利寻租出现鸟...(不分给我好处?哼哼,让你也跑不动!)

家园 生活中,时时刻刻都有宝

恭喜:你意外获得【通宝】一枚

鲜花已经成功送出。

此次送花为【有效送花赞扬,涨乐善、声望】

家园 下5等到了。花葡萄早点

现在的危机和小罗那个时代已经不同了。无论从形式和表现看都已经不同了。

小罗可以关闭证券市场就解决很大问题,可是现在的证券市场不但无法关闭,那么复杂的衍生产品也是无法关闭的吧。

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家园 过于关注细节就没有系统大局观的民族性格所至

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家园 我终于明白什么叫“吃不完的葡萄”了
家园 这葡萄定是刘兰芳或单田芳的fans
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