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家园 打造一个逊尼派的泛伊斯兰国家

可以为中欧俄几乎永久性地添堵。美国就算是必须走人,也能放心地去了。只是小黑帽们的悲剧要重演啊。

家园 犹太人身上再发生什么事情

也是自作孽,种下因就得做好收果的准备。

家园 你还真把我问住了

我又想了想。中国的舆论,大方向,感觉上大概有60%吧,还是掌握在中国政府手里的。剩下的,有很大一部分是掌握在外资和国内私人资本手里的。最关键是互联网上,外资和国内私人资本掌握的舆论比较多。咱们这些经常泡网的,就感受比较深。上网比较少的,可能感觉就不一样。这么说,情况其实没有我早先想象得那么糟糕。

中国政府目前还主要是掌握在TG手里,但是资本,包括外来资本和国内私人资本,已经在想办法抢班夺权了,渗透也很厉害了,特别是在广东等这些远离中央而外来资本比较多的地方。

作为P民,在TG和资本的争夺战中,我为啥偏向TG。是因为TG再不济,考虑到自己政权的稳定性,也还是会为P民考虑考虑的。而资本一旦掌权,那是赤裸裸只为自己的,P民就什么想法都不用有了。没用。

家园 就看明年大海和薄三公子间的斗法吧

今年好几场互联网公案算是给那些个媒体做了足够的测试,摸清了民意的底。估计该走上层路线了,慢慢观察吧。

家园 在中东,中国并没有决定议题的能力

几年前,中国趁着个事,也派出外交特使到中东斡旋,但是转了一圈根本没人搭理。在这种姥姥不疼、舅舅不爱的地方要想刷存在感,让别人搭理你的议题,根本不可能。

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家园 送花成功

送花成功。有效送花赞扬。恭喜:你意外获得 16 铢钱。1通宝=16铢

参数变化,作者,声望:1;铢钱:0。你,乐善:1;铢钱:15。本帖花:1

家园 那是几年前的老皇历了啊,今非昔比了呢,呵呵
家园 伊朗说打下架米国无人机 RQ-170

先看伊朗方面的说法:

中新网12月4日电 综合外电消息,伊朗军方消息来源告知媒体,伊朗军方周日在伊朗 东部击落一架美军无人驾驶侦察机。 伊朗半官方媒体Fars news agency报道称,伊朗军方击落了一架美军无人驾驶侦察 机,并指这架飞机沿着东部边界侵犯伊朗空域。 报道称,这架飞机型号是RQ170。

http://news.163.com/11/1205/00/7KFIAGQJ0001121M.html

再看米国官员的说法:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/04/us-iran-usa-drone-idUSTRE7B30CQ20111204

U.S. official says no sign Iran shot down drone

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By Parisa Hafezi

TEHRAN | Sun Dec 4, 2011 2:29pm EST

(Reuters) - Iranian media reported on Sunday that their country's military had shot down a U.S. reconnaissance drone in eastern Iran, but a U.S. official said there was no indication the aircraft had been shot down.

NATO's U.S.-led mission in neighbouring Afghanistan said the Iranian report could refer to an unarmed U.S. spy drone that went missing there last week.

The incident comes at a time when Tehran is trying to contain foreign outrage at the storming of the British embassy on Tuesday, after London announced sanctions on Iran's central bank in connection with Iran's nuclear enrichment programme.

Iran has announced several times in the past that it shot down U.S., Israeli or British drones, in incidents that did not provoke high-profile responses.

"Iran's military has downed an intruding RQ-170 American drone in eastern Iran," Iran's Arabic-language Al Alam state television network quoted a military source as saying.

"The spy drone, which has been downed with little damage, was seized by the Iranian armed forces," the source said. "The Iranian military's response to the American spy drone's violation of our airspace will not be limited to Iran's borders."

Iranian officials were not available to comment further.

NATO's International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan said in a statement: "The UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle) to which the Iranians are referring may be a U.S. unarmed reconnaissance aircraft that had been flying a mission over western Afghanistan late last week.

"The operators of the UAV lost control of the aircraft and had been working to determine its status."

A U.S. official, who asked not to be named, said: "There is absolutely no indication up to this point that Iranians shot down this drone."

ISOLATION

Tuesday's storming of the British embassy attracted swift condemnation from around the world, further isolating Iran.

Britain evacuated its diplomatic staff from Tehran and expelled Iranian diplomats from London in retaliation. Several other EU members like Germany, France and Spain also recalled their ambassadors from Tehran.

The United States and Israel have not ruled out military action against Iran's nuclear facilities if diplomacy fails to resolve a dispute over a programme they suspect is aimed at developing atomic weapons. Iran says it would respond to any strike by attacking Israel and U.S. interests in the Gulf.

In January Iran said it shot down two unmanned Western reconnaissance drones in the Gulf. In July Iran said it had shot down an unmanned U.S. spy plane over the holy city of Qom, near its Fordu nuclear site.

Western nations on Thursday significantly tightened sanctions against Iran, with the European Union expanding an Iranian blacklist and the U.S. Senate passing a measure that could severely disrupt Iran's oil income.

Iran warned the West on Sunday any move to block its oil exports would more than double crude prices with devastating consequences on a fragile global economy.

"As soon as such an issue is raised seriously the oil price would soar to above $250 a barrel," Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast told the Sharq newspaper.

So far neither Washington nor Brussels has finalised a move against Iran's oil trade or its central bank. Crude prices were pushed up over the British embassy storming with ICE Brent January crude up 95 cents on Friday to settle at $109.94 a barrel.

(Additional reporting by Ramin Mostafavi in Tehran, Caren Bohan and David Alexander in Washington and Missy Ryan in Bonn; Writing by Parisa Hafezi; Editing by Peter Graff)

米国官员不肯直接承认被打下来了,只是说那架无人间谍飞机失踪了。

不知道是兔子的技术还是毛毛熊的技术把这无人迹打下来的。据说这飞机只受了轻微损害,接下来应该会被兔子们研究研究了吧。

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