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家园 给你提个醒,TG的开国大典上有P51凌空的。哪里来的呢?

B29是肯定没有给的。原子弹是肯定没有给的。衣阿华也是肯定没有给的。

家园 菲律宾还用美国使绊子啊?

自己就能把自己弄残,全指着菲佣每年挣点港币、美元、台币啥的——估计以后还会有人民币,要不全国人民还不顿顿吃香蕉啊

家园 不能全部自产,就等于零

什么事情不要看表面光鲜。

首先,虽然武器出口有突破是好事,但是我国不差外汇的几十亿美元。不要为几十亿把很多东西都暴露了。

其次,鼓舞人的事情总是得到大部分人首肯。但是,凡事有利必有弊,静下心来看看有无问题,谨慎点总是没坏处的。

还有一点啊,很多人看到美国人全球采购武器零件就认为我们这么做也没大问题。哼哼,恰恰上当,美国不受限制,我国被封锁限制啊。怎么能什么都和美国学呢?!

再说,自己产不了,大规模战争怎么办?等美国的物质援助?鉴于国内外的总总教训,国防武器,大到核心部件小到螺丝钉,一定要全部自产,不然后果可能就是输掉战争。

家园 我要一步一步往上爬。。。

等待阳光静静看着它的脸

小小的天有大大的梦想

重重的壳挂着轻轻的仰望

家园 总统

土鳖嘛,哪能不土?土,是我的本色。

总统是个坏淫~

话说,这笔买卖可能真的还成不了。如果真有日本电器元件,用于出口无所谓;如果自己用含有日本零件的武器,那真是无语了。

总统
家园 完了,哪天土共的卫星会不会砸到自己的脑袋上?

那个行程开关只有几个控制量,玩不了多大猫腻。

但土共的卫星控制电脑可全是某国产品,会不会被某国劫持变成导弹打在我们脑袋上?

据说好多导弹的弹载计算机都是某国的,我们是不是销毁算了,免得被某国控制反噬自己哦?

家园 节日贺礼!

送花成功。感谢:作者获得通宝一枚。恭喜:你意外获得 16 铢钱。1通宝=16铢

作者,声望:1;铢钱:16。你,乐善:1;铢钱:15。本帖花:1

家园 导弹的控制芯片不是美国的

是国产的。

诚如你所言,如果自用的导弹,特别是大当量的导弹,真包含美国的芯片,还是销毁算了。这真不是玩笑。

家园 弹载计算机还是有可能是国产的吧

弹载计算机还是有可能是国产的吧,做这个的单位有好些啊。不过里面用到的元器件还真不好说了,这些年可能好点。

家园 原来MD的军工是零啊,放心了

华强北的元件,中国的推进剂发来贺电!反动派就是纸老虎。

PS:GZJY的双重标准真牛。美爹是全球采购,成本优化,到中国就是等于零?还有这个开关对系统的重要性和指导头是一样的。

家园 土耳其不是和苏联接壤吗?
家园 就算土耳其搞个假订单跟MD傲娇,TG也没损失啊!

打广告不付钱,对方还要付违约金。打广告还倒收钱的好事不那么多吧。心不要太大,一步步来就好!不要想一口一个大胖子。小心太胖减肥不容易,又费马达又费电。

家园 记住上海交大陈进干的啥?

没有骗成,只好继续用外面的了

家园 红旗二号给过越南吗?

印象中越南的防空导弹都是老毛子给的?

家园 土耳其国防部长辩解决定

ANKARA — Turkey on Wednesday defended its decision to enter talks with China to acquire its first long-range anti-missile system, in spite of protests from its ally Washington.

It also made clear that no deal had yet been finalised.

"The Chinese gave us the best price," Defence Minister Ismet Yilmaz told Vatan newspaper, explaining that the system's Chinese manufacturer had agreed to a co-production deal with Turkey.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Levent Gumrukcu said talks were to begin with the Chinese company, but made it clear that the selection process was still ongoing.

"The process has not yet been finalised," he said.

In an official statement last week, Turkey said it has "decided to begin talks with the CPMIEC company of the People's Republic of China for the joint production of the systems and its missiles in Turkey".

China Precision Machinery Export-Import Corp (CPMIEC) beat out competition from a US partnership of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin, Russia's Rosoboronexport, and the Italian-French consortium Eurosamrs in the tender.

The original contract was worth a reported $4 billion dollars, but the Chinese bid reportedly came in at a much lower $3 billion according to Turkish media.

The United States reacted with alarm to news that Ankara had chosen the Chinese firm, slapped with US sanctions for delivering arms to Iran and Syria, to build the air defence and anti-missile system.

"We had asked for joint production and a technology transfer," the Turkish minister said. "If other countries cannot guarantee us that, then we will turn to ones that can."

NATO member Turkey is a key regional ally to the United States, and currently has US-built Patriot missile systems deployed on its border to deter incoming attacks from Syria.

Turkey wants to build its own long-range air defence and anti-missile architecture to counter both enemy aircraft and missiles.

NATO has also raised concerns over possible compatibility issues between the Chinese-made system and others used within the alliance.

Yilmaz dismissed its concerns, saying: "There is no problem on that front."

The foreign ministry confirmed that Turkey had been in talks with NATO over the past few days, with Gumrukcu saying that the exchange of views with NATO allies was "only natural."

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