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家园 和美国交流感情,依靠的只能是实力。

的确如此,从习奥会到这次划界才算真正看到这个,以前国内的外交太注重面子了,包括到美国访问一定是什么什么规格,太没有自信了。

家园 这可能是选在23日公开的原因

但应该不是划防空识别区的目的,至少不是唯一的目的

家园 中日韩三国自由贸易协定第三轮谈判26日在东京举行

今天的新闻,看得我有点分裂

家园 今天腾讯说辽宁舰去南海训练了。
家园 我试过了,大陆ip不翻墙可直接看

goagent翻墙,显示的是一个输入用户名和密码的页面。

哈哈哈

家园 这说明老美的力量不够用的了...

集中力量到东亚来...也不见得够用...

再来几个回合...就知道了...

对垒开始了...

一年来...老美不像前几年希拉里那时咄咄逼人...有点静...奇怪呀...是不是确实虚了...无可奈何?

倒是小日本跳来跳去...越跳越高...恐怕这个跳得高的会摔的不轻...

这个跳...是tg指挥的...或者说是tg逼的...老美先歇歇...

等小日本跳不动了...才是老美再次出面跳的时候...

老美是聪明的...还是跳回关岛吧...

家园 犹太人一进中国书店就被吓到了

满眼都是“犹太人怎样怎样”,你们中国也反犹?还这么明目张胆的写出来?

--别怕别怕,那些书都是夸你们犹太人哪

家园 老大秀肌肉了啊。

U.S. Directly Challenges China's Air Defense Zone

Pair of American B-52 Bombers Fly Over Disputed Island Chain

不知道TG如何应对。对小鬼子应该还是能起到鼓舞士气的作用的。

依我看,就是当年金门炮战的办法,只打蒋舰,不打美舰。

老大来,咱们也应该伴飞。小日本来,就要挤一挤,靠一靠,练一下战术。

通宝推:北纬42度,

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家园 要飞过就雷达锁定呗,不用浪费飞行小时。

人家插个边过去,你赶过去也来不及。

家园 美军机飞越中国防空识别区 - 转贴

美国国防部发言人沃伦11月26号星期二说,两架美国B-52轰炸机从关岛起飞,于华盛顿时间星期一下午7时左右进入中国扩大了的防空区域,而没有根据中国设立防空识别区的要求事先向中国方面通报。

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家园 这是锻炼空军的持久战

不用在意一时的胜败,也许今年,明年空军面对美日战机还会手忙脚乱,在长期美日陪练下,TG空军想不进步都难。五年,十年后东海上空又会是怎样的天空?(可以肯定,现在在东海上畅通无阻的美日战机,到时会顾虑重重。回想台海空军,以前台湾空军能畅通无阻深入大陆,而现在呐?只能待在台海中线以东。划线是靠实力说话的。)

家园 X: surprised by "62古巴危机"升级?

or whatever hedging as a reasonably "strong (it is a PR game anyway) "counter move against uncle sam's bullying him/TGchina, X is naked: he may be big on ambition, short on everything else (except his political power & skills domestically), in front of the whole world.

晨枫:

"一开始,双方都会显示立场,在重叠区里比翼齐飞会很常见,甚至可能会有事故。但要避免中日在各自“单方面”宣布的ADZI里发生意外冲突,唯一现实的做法是双方默认重叠区为各自的军用飞机免入区,否则只有卷入不可控制的升级。"

1.

likely X is in a meeting now;

but what he could do?

1) china already knows before US made the fuss;

2) if china were ready with "all plan A, B, C" set up, china would have taken initiatives to make the move already, why still discussing & meeting?

3) if it is just an another "serious protest' of words only=0

2.

一旦遭人欺负,瞬间就应当进行回击。瞬间!—普京

X may have tried to "山寨"普京, & miscalculated uncle sam; uncle sam: can't have more than 1 普京 burning in my ass, pick the weak one, hit him

now X got hit by uncle sam, what is the follow up plan?

3.

北京要求外国飞行器进入防空识别区,须先向中国通报飞行计画,包括国籍、航向、航速、高度、飞行路线等,接受监控。未申请飞机进入,将面对战机升空拦截、监视等行动

1)美国轰炸机飞越中国设定的东海航空识别区。轰炸机飞抵相关区域之后,中国方面并没有与这两架轰炸机取得联系。

2) 中国国防部航天器进入东海防空识别圈的要求:必须开启并保持双向无线电通信联系,及时准确回答东海防空识别区管理机构或其授权单位的识别询问;配有二次雷达应答机的应当全程开启

apparently, X started his short JPY/uncle sam position well prepared for all this technical stuff, and now what?

4.

晨枫

" 军用飞机免入区,否则只有卷入不可控制的升级"

uncle sam apparently did 升级, kind of like margin loaded to reinforce your trade positions, hoping your counter party to chicken out & give up on the game

1) 1962的古巴危机,当时俄罗斯要将核武器布置在古巴,那是美国门口,美国肯尼地总统马上要打核战争, soviet chickened , & M started shorting soviet?

2) now uncle sam B-52 already showed its force, & TGchina has not even figured out what to say?

3) X model already started topping out?

4) 升级 is kind of like leveraging, all traders put margin on to support their positions, but eventually margins have to be taken off, borrowed money to be paid back to the brokerage, the challenge:

whose trade is going to be a losing trade? somebody has to lose to wrap up the game, for others to win, with profit made;

so far, X is likely the losing trader

5

"卷入不可控制的升级" is the trick

every trader thinks he is the only smart asshole in the world, so until his stop loss orders get hit, he is not going to give up

taking out his stop loss orders is obviously not enough, the guy will come back again to trade against you, so the best way to wipe him out is to 爆倉 this guy: let him piles up all the margins in front of everybody, then the market maker call in all his buddies, cascading down the stock, so this guy had no chance to activate his stop loss, & he is all but taken out, with everybody watching, & learning: follow the market maker, or you will be killed, period

6.

X: very likely not prepared for 1962的古巴危机 kind of 升级

otherwise, X is fully repaired, still, the game is non-linear, a little loss at last round of game=the loss of entire game

TG should have planned for 美国轰炸机 etc coming in;

1) TG air fighter to take off & monitor 美国轰炸机

2) US air fighter to take off to monitor the TG

3) US is ready to take out TG air fighter at whatever risk, including a full fledged war with TGchina

4) TG military did not plan for 3)

5) TG military found 3) out after 2)

6) TG military reported to X

7) X: fxxk u guys, activate stop loss orders, no further military actions of whatever

just a guess

家园 如果将任何前进一步都叫赌的话,那原地踏步就赌的更厉害了。
家园 不和以前一样了吗

和满清开战和俄罗斯和美国开战日本都是抱着赌博性质来的这次又是在那赌国运了。问题是第1第2次赢了 第3次输了 第4次那?还真是狗改不了吃屎。

家园 化定防空识别区是合理冲撞行为,无可厚非。

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