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家园 养老金问题现在已开始浮现, the state

pension is a big black hole.

In States, pension money will be collected and put into a separate trust account. All payments are drawn from this trust account--any deficit will be paid through the annual operating gov. budget.

Currently, US has no problem at all: collection is much higher than payments.

China already starts to have pension deficit even in the most prosperous city: Shanghai.

http://www.21cbh.com/HTML/2011-2-15/2MMDAwMDIyMDQ2MA.html

It tells that even with a still relatively young labor force, high contribution rate(8%), very high labor participation rate(china's rate is definitely higher than in Europe or States), the annual collection is NOT enough to cover annual payment!!!

2010年上海地方财政收入2873.6亿元,增长13%,这样的财政收入水平可以说走在了全国城市的前列。--hehe. How about other backward provinces in the west??

上海财政局一位官员解释,现在比较流行一个词汇叫“支出型贫困”,上海看起来收了很多,但支出去的也不少,这个问题在社保基金问题上表现得特别明显。

http://www.21cbh.com/HTML/2011-3-25/0MMDAwMDIyOTA0MQ.html

Individual pension contribution rate: Shanghai--8%

But in developed nations such as USA: 6.2% (included in the social security contribution--for pension AND disability insurance). Medicare contribution is separate levy.

Canada: rates differ between Canada pension plan (CPP) and Quebec pension plan (QPP): 4.95%-4.8%.

Why China's provincial/industry-based pension system is so broke?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8o8aRsHwk&playnext=1&list=PL2797EEA42D061016

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9_kWSW08Ug&playnext=1&list=PL2797EEA42D061016

Look at how those provincial gov. manage YOUR PENSION MONEY!!!

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