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家园 摔跤吧,洞朗!(2): 会(敢)和川普拍桌子吗?

南华早报八月五号有篇文章回顾1959年毛泽东率文武对阵赫鲁晓夫 ,小赫承沙俄的梦想:妄想分裂西藏,取悦印度。抛开意识形态,这无疑令中国心寒,埋下中苏分裂,间接导致苏联解体。看到陈毅对小赫拍桌(脑补:”我不鸟你“) 大快特快!

王毅说中美正积极准备川普访华。中美和当时中苏当然不一样,但美国一直帮印度压我们。所以借鉴一下,来看看一代的豪气! 会和/敢和川普拍桌子吗?

[URL=www.scmp.com/week-asia/geopolitics/article/2105501/how-mao-and-khrushchev-fought-over-china-india-border-dispute] CHINA-INDIA BORDER DISPUTE [/URL]

Following is a transcript of a meeting attended by Khrushchev, Mao Zedong (毛澤東), M.A. Suslov, A.A. Gromyko, Liu Shaoqi (劉少奇), Zhou Enlai (周恩來), Lin Biao (林彪), Peng Zhen (彭真), Chen Yi and Wan Xia Sang.

Nikita Khrushchev: You have had good relations with India for many years. Suddenly, here is a bloody incident, as a result of which [Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal] Nehru found himself in a very difficult position…If you let me, I will tell you what a guest should not say: the events in Tibet are your fault. You ruled in Tibet (西藏), you should have had your intelligence [agencies] there and should have known about the plans and intentions of the Dalai Lama.

Mao Zedong: Nehru also says that the events in Tibet [were] our fault. Besides, in the Soviet Union they published a TASS declaration on the issue of conflict with India [supporting India].

Khrushchev: Do you really want us to approve of your conflict with India? It would be stupid on our part. The TASS declaration was necessary…

Mao Zedong: Our mistake was that we did not disarm the Dalai Lama right away. But at that time we had no contact with the popular masses of Tibet.

Khrushchev: You have no contact even now with the population of Tibet.

Mao: We have a different understanding of this issue ….

Khrushchev: You were wrong to let the Dalai Lama go. If you allow him an opportunity to flee to India, then what has Nehru to do with it? We believe that the events in Tibet are the fault of the Communist Party of China, not Nehru’s.

Mao: No, this is Nehru’s fault.

Mao: We also support Nehru, but in the question of Tibet we should crush him.

Khrushchev: Why did you have to kill people on the border with India?

Mao: They attacked us first, crossed the border and continued firing for 12 hours.

Zhou: What information do you trust more – India’s or ours?

Khrushchev: Although the Indians attacked first, nobody was killed among the Chinese, and only among the Indians.

Zhou: But what we are supposed to do if they attack us first? We cannot fire in the air. The Indians even crossed the McMahon line.

Chen Yi: I am outraged by your declaration that the aggravation of relationship with India was our fault.

Khrushchev: I am also outraged by your declaration that we are time-servers. We should support [Jawaharlal] Nehru, to help him stay in power.

Mao: The events in Tibet and the border conflict – these are temporary developments…

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Khrushchev: Take back your accusations; otherwise we spoil relations between our parties. We are your friends and speak the truth. We never acted as time-servers with regard to anybody.

Chen: But you also lay two political accusations at our door, by saying that both the aggravations of relations with India and the escape of the Dalai Lama were our fault. I believe that you are still acting as time-servers.

Khrushchev: If you consider us time-servers, comrade Chen Yi, then do not offer me your hand. I will not accept it.

Chen: Neither will I. I must tell you I am not afraid of your fury.

Khrushchev: You should not spit from the height of your Marshal title. You do not have enough spit. We cannot be intimidated…

摘录:

赫鲁晓夫:多年来你们同印度一直很好,突然有了流血冲突。这让尼赫鲁很难办。如果允许,我要说作为客人不该说的话:西藏事件是你们的错。你们控制着西藏,你们应该在那里有情报,应该知道达赖喇嘛的计划和企图。

毛泽东:尼赫鲁也说是我们的错。另外你们塔斯社的声明支持印度。

赫鲁晓夫:你们真的想要我们支持您们同印度的冲突吗?就我们来说,那是愚蠢的。塔斯社的声明是必要的。

毛泽东:我们的错误是一开始没有缴达赖的械,但那时我们还没有和西藏人民大众接触。

赫鲁晓夫:你们现在也没有和西藏人民大众接触。

毛泽东:我们这里见解不同。

赫鲁晓夫:你们错误地放走了达赖喇嘛,如果你们给他机会逃到印度,尼赫鲁怎么办?我们相信西藏事件是中国共产党的错,不是尼赫鲁的。

毛泽东:尼赫鲁的错!

毛泽东:我们也支持尼赫鲁,但在西藏问题上我们要打倒他!

赫鲁晓夫: 为什么在同印度的边界上你们杀了人?

毛泽东:他们首先攻击我们,越过边界,持续开火12个小时。

周恩来:你更相信我们还是印度的信息?

赫鲁晓夫:尽管印度首先进攻,但是,中国没有死人,而印度却死了人。

周恩来:印度首先进攻我们怎么办?我们不能朝天开枪,印度人甚至越过了麦克马洪线。

陈毅:塔斯社的声明说中印关系的恶化是我们的错让老子很气愤。

赫鲁晓夫:你们说我们是机会主义也让我气愤。我们应该帮助尼赫鲁,让他掌权。

毛泽东:西藏事件和边界冲突是暂时的。。。。

赫鲁晓夫:收回你们的指责;不然会恶化我们的关系。我们是朋友讲真话。我们从来不对任何一方以机会主义行事。

陈毅:你却在我们家门口对我们进行两个政治指责,说我们恶化同印度的关系,让达赖喇嘛跑掉,都是我们的错。我认为你现在的行为依然是机会主义。

赫鲁晓夫:如果你认为我们是机会主义,陈毅同志,你就不要把你的手伸给我,我不会同你握手的。

陈毅:我也不会,我告诉你,我不怕你发怒。

赫鲁晓夫:你不要从你元帅的那个高度啐唾沫,你没有那么多的唾沫。我们也不是能被吓倒的人。

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