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                    • 家园 就是看到Ford不错所以没敢put GM. 还是HOV好啊,

                      每天都让人高兴。

                      • 家园 如果没有收购,是可以PUT GM的。

                        就担心蹦出来一个Private Equity收购GM,那可能价钱能跳一下。我想能不能做几个数量比较大,而excersise price 不太高的PUT (当然价钱也贵),同时做数量比较小,但是excersise PRICE较高的CALL (便宜),来规避风险。也就是说,我们还是重点看跌,但也规避暴涨的风险。

                    • 家园 ford没有次级房贷的负担

                      GM就不同了,每个季度至少填进去1b。还有车贷也会出问题。但是确实不要在大跌的日子卖空,就像大涨的时候不要追高一样。

                      • 家园 俺刚进了点福特,可惜没买成HOV扑

                        因为觉得它的股价一直没有涨上来,现在确实是低点,另外我确实看好它,因为最近的产品不错,而且福特的管理风格是财务当家,抠的很,这种公司一般能挺过财务难关。

                        看了飞人兄的推荐,不禁心痒,想买扑,结果发现俺的交易账户不能买期权,还得再签几份表。现在手续还在办理中,真是望扑兴叹呀,眼看HOVMV从本周一的九毛到今天的两块。

        • 家园 花儿人人会献

          恭喜:意外获得【西西河通宝】一枚

          越来越体会到股市真是考验人的地方。战略清晰,战术对头,才能真正盈利。俺还没有能力做到像飞人兄一样去分析财经大势。还好河里大牛多多,多读多看就有帮助。战术层面,尤其是option的买卖战术上,从飞人那学到不少。

          先说说俺的流水帐。hov上拿了好一阵,虽买早了也出早了,但还是赚了个三位数。到bsc上买了个短期的put,想赌一把,又不够硬气,把那三位数都还了。现在又买了个长期gm的put拿着。

          俺想对小本经营的新手说几个:

          1.买option不要急,买入点时机很关键。我每次买完之后总发现,可以以更低20~30%的价格买入。所以,我决定以后下单都在现价的基础上打个折扣下limit price的单。宁可买不上,也不要急。

          2.长期的option好过短期。即使亏了,在过程中学习到的,也比短期多。短期的真像赌桌。无论盈亏,还没反应过来,忽悠一下就结束了。

          3.对钱宽裕些的,飞人兄的按趋势买入长期+按技术面买入短期的战术应该是最好的吧。

          4.蛙跳?嗯,小本经营的话,跳一次好贵。所以俺还没试过

    • 家园 第十三周:2007-7-13 几乎回到原价值……

      今天是2007-07-13。以下都是今天的收市价格,和与上次更新相比的涨跌。

      HOV:$18.53 +$2.26

      GM: $37.03 +$1.46

      CRM: $44.54 -$0.14

      NT: $23.50 +$0.12

      2008年1月18日的扑的价格(BID):

      HOV:(Strike=$20) $3.30 -$1.00

      GM: (Strike=$25) $0.70 $0.00

      CRM: (Strike=$35) $1.75 $0.00

      NT: (Strike=$20) $0.75 $0.00

      俺们捡来的$6400先价值为:

      (3.30 + 0.70 + 1.75 + 0.75) X100X10 = $6500

      嗯……HOV在谣言的哄抬下猛涨,其他的起起伏伏,对扑的价格没啥影响。

      对了,我怎么看到了两个CRM的2008年一月份的扑:

      35.00 CRMMG 1.70 +0.10 30.00 1.60 1.75 2,595.00

      35.00 ODKMG 1.90 4.00 1.75 1.90 2,403.00

      执行价都是35,但是价格却不一样,这真是怪哉!楼下宁子兄指出的价格差异,也是这个造成的。这种情况下到底应该取那个为准呢?

      三个月以来的走势图:

      点看全图

      外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改

    • 家园 肥腩哪去了,7/13/07还没更新阿
      • 家园 啊,今天在外面奔忙,才回来吃了饭,就来就来……

        最近我还弄了一个飞人兄推荐过的房屋建筑商的股票模拟盘,包括HOV(他最早指出来的)、BZH(他说这个看起来有enron的样子)、LEN(最大的建筑商,但是同样焦头烂额)等等,但是跟这个不一样,全都是短线的,只买当月的扑,快进快出,最后一周前统统变现,最近这个账户已经翻番了。可惜不是真钱啊……#$%#$%!%$!%!

        等我忙完手头的事情贴出来给大家指导……

    • 家园 第十二周:2007-7-06 哇咔咔咔咔……

      今天是2007-07-06。以下都是今天的收市价格,和与上次更新相比的涨跌。

      HOV:$16.27 -$0.26

      GM: $36.49 +$1.29

      CRM: $44.68 +$1.82

      NT: $23.38 -$0.67

      2008年1月18日的扑的价格(BID):

      HOV:(Strike=$20) $4.30 +$0.20

      GM: (Strike=$25) $0.70 +$0.10

      CRM: (Strike=$35) $1.75 $0.00

      NT: (Strike=$20) $0.75 +$0.05

      俺们捡来的$6400先价值为:

      (4.30 + 0.70 + 1.75 + 0.75) X100X10 = $7500

      嗯……HOV先跌后周五猛涨,其他变化不大。

      三个月以来的走势图:

      点看全图

      外链图片需谨慎,可能会被源头改

    • 家园 【文摘】ZT HOV Information

      Let's look at the great qualities that separate Hovnanian from the rest of the housing market:

      Debt/Equity Ratio last quarter:

      HOV: 1.4

      Industry: .79

      This means Hovnanian has 1.4 times more long-term debt than equity, twice as much as the industry average.

      Cash Flow/Long Term Debt ratio:

      .078

      This means Hovnanian generates free cash flow that is equivalent to 7.8% of its long-term debt.

      Interest Coverage (EBIT/Interest Expense):

      -34.77/6.67 = -5.2

      This means that Hovnanian is losing 5.2 times more money than it owes on interest payments.

      Interest Expense over the last 5 quarters:

      Q2 2006: 0.70

      Q3 2006: 0.65

      Q4 2006: 1.45

      Q1 2007: 1.22

      Q2 2007: 6.67

      This means that somehow, Hovnanian managed to increase its interest payments to 6.67 million, up from just 1.22 million the previous quarter, an increase that is 5.46 times higher.

      Let's have a look at cash, where all figures are obtained from thestreet.com. Last quarter, Hovnanian had $19.5 million in cash. It also had interest payments of 6.67 million, included in total loss of $30.73 million. This means that the company will have to severely cut equity (essentially by liquidating houses by selling them at lower prices), to generate enough cash flow to stay afloat. When this happens, Hovnanian will have reduced assets that were claimed as collateral for its debt.

      Let's isolate interest payments to cash, and pretend losses don't exist for a moment. If Hovnanian has to pay $6.67 million or more for the next three quarters, that is a total of at least $20.01 million. But, last quarter it only had $19.5 million in cash. This means Hovnanian barely has enough cash to stay afloat for the next three quarters, without even considering the continuation of losses.

      So, how will it stay afloat? There are several options. First, it can raise capital by selling the stock in its treasury account, which has currently 12.39 million shares. There are currently 47.5 million traded shares outstanding. So, if they had to sell all 12.39 million, they would dilute the shares by 26% of their current value.

      看样子,HOV 还要降。

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