主题：【美国大选手记五十九】史上最瞩目的副总统辩论 -- 尼伯龙根·蜗藤

....when he's still having fun

现在想走走不得的也只有McCain老头而已

在新浪看到了六十四,这最新几期没有在西西河更新的手记中,蜗藤对于奥巴马的痛恨可以说彻底显露无疑,尤其是六十三期中，基本已经把奥巴马定性为美国民主的敌人了。

到了这步，任何对奥巴马有利的手段都成了自由之敌大阴谋的一部分。虽然蜗藤分析的基本资料仍然相当充实，不泛泛而谈，但划分标准似乎有越来越有“凡是公开支持奥巴马的，就是左派或极左派”，纽约时报一向在美国属于左翼自由派，这是大家都知道的，但华盛顿邮报即使不算右翼媒体，也应该算是比较中间派的，却也给划入“一向倾左”的范围。其实，奥巴马的支持者拼命给他贴金，实在是很正常的竞选手段，小布什当年人气高时，用的手法几乎没有什么差别。今年主要还是大环境对共和党太不利，对驴象两党的态度，除了部分旗帜一向极鲜明的，大多数美国媒体还是属于骑墙派，看风色行事的。

尤其是我认为，对于“奥巴马真相小分队”（Obama truth squad），蜗藤把其定性为压制言论自由的无理打压手段，这种指责实际很没道理。事实上只要回想上一届竞选，克里的越战英雄形象是怎么被共和党阵营的一支奇兵，用真假难辩的手段抹黑成了负资产，这可以理解奥巴马、民主党这次决心不再重蹈复辙的心情。

而密苏里的选民登记作弊，俄亥俄州州国务卿，民主党人布朗纳尔以“政府进行核查的过程过于繁琐，而且加强选民身份核实将会把那些因为种种原因无法提供身份证明的选民排除在投票的行列之外”为由拒绝在核实前不让可疑选民投票，又被最高法院接受了这种意见，实在让我想起“出来混，总有一天要还的”这句“名言”，说白了，不就是2000年大选，小布什在佛州占的便宜，现在要由可怜的麦老头来还了嘛^^

这个系列好久木更新啦。。。。

写得好。我贴个有关民调的老美贴子

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/another-reason-the-polls-are-off-just-listen-to-how-some-polls-are-conducted/

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NOTE: We received the below from a mother in Colorado who was recently

polled. She describes how the poll was conducted, what questions were asked,

and how her poll was differentiated (how the pollster recorded her vote).

We’ve never heard from anyone who’s been polled directly before, but if

this is how the polls are actually conducted and recorded, we now understand

why SoetorObama did 15% worse in some states during the primaries than what

he was polled as.

Dear HillBuzz,

OK, well I got polled and now I am pissed.

We just moved back to CO and I registered as an Independent. I think that is

the reason I got the call.

Here is how it went - they called when my 10 month old was upset so I told

them not right now. She said she just wanted a few questions and didn’t

mind my son being upset. I said fine.

She NEVER asked me WHO I supported. She asked this question first -

1. Do you support lower taxes to help the economy recover. - of course, I

said yes.

2. Did I support our initial ‘invasion’ of Iraq. She emphasized that this

wasn’t about the surge or supporting the troops now, just did I believe we

should have been there in the first place. I said No, I didn’t really think

now was the time to have gone in.

At that point I asked her why she didn’t just ask me who I supported. She

said that the polling company didn’t want partisanship they believed that a

person’s opinion on the issues reveals who they will vote for.

So I asked her who my answers revealed I would vote for.

She said I was put in the supporting Obama category…………..

What the hell. I told her NO, I am supporting McCain. She then said that

because I wanted lower taxes I fit with Obama’s economic plan…LMAO and

because I didn’t really thing we should have gone into Irag that I

supported Obama’s foreign policy plan……..LMAO again (I am short on A$$

right now :)

I told her the premise of the questions were false and misleading due to the

fact that I did not believe Obama would lower taxes. She also didn’t ask

my income bracket to verify where in his plan I fall to determine my answer.

Even if you use Obama’s so called plan, if I was rich, then I would lean

McCain by wanting lower taxes. I told her that Obama’s plan does not

include taxes lower than McCain’s in any category.

I literally laughed at the foreign policy question. I said, first your

premise is based on hindsight which is 20/20. Two respectable democrats

viewed the same flawed intelligence to make their decision. Hillary and

others voted to support and start the Iraq War. I think the issue isn’t

Bush, the Repubs or Democrats it is the faulty intelligence that came in and

the climate of fear in America at the time. However, just because I believe

that Iraq was not a good idea does not lend support to Obama because you

can’t change history. He wasn’t given an opportunity to vote on Iraq

because he was still in the state senate. He might have voted present or yes

to the war we really don’t know. He was not privy to the intelligence. He

stance and record since the war began and Obama’s view has appauling. I

told her to mark me down for McCain and she said she would have to discuss

it with her superviser due to my answers to the questions………..

WTF….

If this is how polling is going then of course Obama is ahead. I am still

pissed. I have zero faith in polling or the MSM these days.

Colorado Mom

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拭目以待。

俺不清楚为什么这么多人认为奥肯定上台.

与四年前相比,红脖依然红润,自由还是照旧,不投票党仍然没有大的变化.不同的地方是老头+美女组合是一门心思专攻中右,小奥+政客组合针对中左,壁垒分明.说白了就是保守白人对黑人加左翼白人斗法.如果不出意外,俺的看法是老头美女组合会险胜.投票人数最终决定结果.

不要对电视辩论评价过高,那不过是重要的SHOW罢了.

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