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主题:【原创】法国莫非是那只最肥的羊? -- 加东

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      • 家园 G2呢?够实力了吧?

        其实,我也不认为大家一定会吃掉法国,只不过看它那副“自作孽,不可活”的倒酶德性,希望它确确实实倒一把血酶罢了

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          • 家园 G2是“邪恶轴心”,当然不会自己赤膊上阵

            肯定拉着狐朋狗友一起上

            至於法国有多讨厌,见仁见智吧。

            把台湾说成是“中国的睾丸”,纯属李遨夸大到无聊至极。如果台湾真的威胁到了中国的生存,大不了“核平”之,有什么呀?

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              • 家园 【原创】台湾是宫女

                男人没了睾丸就不是男人;

                中国没了台湾依然是中国。

                所以,台湾不是睾丸。但它是中国的禁脔,宁肯毁了也不能给别人。

                恰当的比喻应该是:

                台湾是宫女,皇帝不上也不许别人上

    • 家园 【NEWS】 法国核电巨头Areva和印度签署协议

      提供6个核反应发电机组....

      PARIS — French nuclear giant Areva signed a preliminary deal Wednesday to provide India with up to six new-generation reactors — a move hailed in India as ending its nuclear isolation and transforming the country into "a responsible nuclear state."

      The Paris-based company says the deal signed with Indian electric utility Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd. paves the way for technical cooperation on at least two and as many as six of Areva's so-called EPRs, or Evolutionary Power Reactors, at the Jaitapur site in the western state of Maharashtra.

      Areva's statement didn't estimate the value of the deal, which expands the list of countries adopting the technology in response to skyrocketing energy demand. Last year, an executive at Areva rival General Electric Co. estimated the size of India's nuclear market at more than $30 billion.

      Indian officials at Wednesday's signing said the deal marked the start of a wide-ranging future collaboration on nuclear issues between the two countries.

      "This is just the beginning," said Anil Kakodkar, Chairman of India's Atomic Energy Commission.

      Prithviraj Chavan, minister in the prime minister's office responsible for nuclear issues, said the deal marked the end of India's "nuclear isolation" and signaled its emergence as "a responsible nuclear state."

      The deal follows the conclusion of a landmark nuclear deal between the United States and India earlier this year, which opened the way for nuclear trade between India and other nations. Previously, India had faced a nuclear trade ban since its first atomic test in 1974 amid its refusal to sign international treaties designed to limit the illicit spread of such materials.

      India has already inked deals with Russia to build new nuclear plants, but the deal with Areva is the first commercial agreement since India received the go-ahead from the International Atomic Energy Agency last year.

      Chavan said India needs to quadruple power generation by 2032, so the country can keep its economy growing and pull millions out of poverty. Current shortfalls, particularly at peak periods, mean that India's cities suffer frequent power outages — sometimes lasting an entire day.

      The utility company NPCIL already has five reactors under construction, which will increase its electricity generating capacity by 2,660 megawatts, from 4,120 megawatts currently. It operates all of India's 17 existing nuclear reactors.

      Today, India gets just 3 percent of its energy — about 4,100 megawatts — from nuclear power. By 2032, the government plans to generate 700 gigawatts overall, with nuclear accounting for 63,000 megawatts.

      That adds up to about 40 new nuclear reactors worth some $80 billion, according to NPCIL chairman Shreyans Kumar Jain.

      Besides GE, Areva competes with Westinghouse Electric Co. and Russia's Rosatom State Nuclear Energy Corp. to build new reactors in India. Rosatom is already helping India build two nuclear reactors.

      The Areva-designed pressurized water reactors, which are meant to replace aging reactors around the world whose designs date from decades ago, are already under construction in Finland, France and China. Areva also has plans to build the new reactors in Britain and the United States, company spokeswoman Patricia Marie said.

      However, the Finnish project has been plagued by repeated delays due to faulty materials and planning problems since construction began in 2005. The 1,600-megawatt plant was to be online in 2009, but the latest estimated startup date is 2012.

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      • 家园 法国的那个ERP超贵,印度人用也是自找苦吃

        法国的那个ERP技术,首个在芬兰的示范堆造价超过 4000美元每千瓦。

        中国的国产的CRP65堆(秦山二期)只要1300美元每千瓦

        二代半的CRP1000,(山东海阳批量建设6台,已开工),造价再1500-1700美元每千瓦

        引进美国的AP1000三代核电技术的首批机组,设计造价是1500-1700美元每千瓦,虽然现在价格猛涨到2000-2300美元每千瓦,但也比ERP便宜多了。

        论技术AP1000比ERP可以说是先进半代的。

        印度人真有钱,用得起ERP。不知道他们的电费怎么算。

        • 家园 AREVA/ALSTOM在印度淫荡了几十年,

          比我们河里绝大多数人年龄都长,在者,AREVA在印度的员工工资在印度中是比较高的,所以,拿到项目我认为比较正常。

        • 家园 中国的那么便宜2,,怎么不用自己的?

          为什么迎接贵的?安全点????????????

          • 家园 技术上较为落后,安全上信心不够,自主比例有限

            不过这几个问题也不是不可以解决的

            1、技术虽然较为落后,但是也够用了,也是二代核电的普遍水平

            2、安全上主要是对国产器件的安全信心可能还不是特别的强,。

            3、2000年左右,很多部件的不能自己生产,还需要进口,不过现在来看大部分都可以自产了。只有很少的还需要进口。

            所以现在CRP1000一次批了6台机组,作为AP1000成熟前的替代,量产了

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