主题：【原创】范保罗天空的枭龙 -- 观望者
家园 Farnborough航展中的枭龙及其国产武器照片 以下照片来自航空航天港http://www.9ifly.cn/sub/forum-6-1.html
家园 贴一些枭龙的照片 
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外链图片需谨慎，可能会被源头改家园 给不谈ZZ的老观补个料. Jakarta Post
Pakistan offers jet fighter to Indonesian Military
Pakistan Defense Minister Chaudhary Ahmed Mukhtar offers his Indonesian counterpartthe latest jet fighter called the JF-17 duringhis visit to Jakarta on Wednesday.
Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro responded to the offer, saying that further discussion would be conducted in October.
Minister Mukhtar was here to sign the Defense Cooperation Agreement between the two countires at the Defense Ministry.
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He said the JF-17 jet fighter was the product of a joint production between Pakistan and China. The manufacturers claimed the jet to be cheaper and stronger than the US F-16.
Purnomo said he learned there had been 500 JF-17 jet fighters produced(饿滴个神啊,倒希望是真的); 350 allocated for Pakistan and the remaining 150 are for China.
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Pakistan Ambassador to Indonesia Sanaullah, who also attended the press conference, promoted the product, saying the aircraft had met the requirements to be used by the Indonesian military.
The Defense Ministry is currently developing its own jet fighter project with South Korea. Dubbed the KFX project, the project is aimed at providing both countries with five jet fighter prototypes before 2020.
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The Pakistani defense minister visit is the latest, after China's central Military Commissioner, Guo Boxiong, visited the countgry in May.
中间省略了一些,俺可不是转载,全是手打,太晚了,偷个懒,就不翻了.
家园 印尼最急着换的 印尼空军目前最急着换的,可能是一批攻击侦察机(OV-10 Bronco,印尼现有十五架)和教练机(BAE Hawk 53,现有十八架).
据说中国的歼教9,在进口备选飞机名单当中,
Indonesia's air force plans to revive a request for funds to launch competitions to replace its Rockwell OV-10 Bronco light combat aircraft and BAE Systems Hawk 53 trainers........A fresh proposal for the procurements will be sent shortly, as the OV-10s and Hawks need to be replaced urgently, Indonesian air force commander Air Marshal Imam Sufaat told the official Antara news agency......He adds that there are five alternatives to the Hawk. These are the Aero Vodochody L-159B, Alenia Aermacchi M-346, Chengdu FTC-2000, Korea Aerospace Industries/Lockheed Martin T-50 and the Yakovlev Yak-130........
The air force has, however, also been pushing the government to go ahead with plans to upgrade its existing Lockheed F-16A/B fighters, and to buy more Sukhoi Su-30MKMs.
关于最后一句所说的,印尼空军也正在要求政府实施升级F-16A/B及进口更多Su-30MKM的计划.也是另有报道的.这大概也是巴国防部长推荐枭龙的由来吧.
印尼现有十架F-16A/B(原有十二架),所谓升级计划,目的其实是为了替换其所有的十二架老旧的F-5E/F.所以就是买枭龙,数量可能有限.似乎人家主要还是想跟美国谈,新购六架F-16C/D;同时将原有F-16A/B中的六架加以升级至C/D
Indonesia is talking to the U.S. about procuring six F-16C/D Block 50/52 fighter aircraft, upgrading six F-16A/Bs to C/D......The F-16s would replace 12 aging F-5E/F Tiger IIs.至于老毛子,是趁美国以前对印尼禁运时打进去的,本来人家是美粉,没老毛子什么事,但禁运后,印尼后续的F-16买不进来,老毛子又给了他们很多优惠,终于转向,买进Su-27SK和Su-30MK,等美国解除禁运时,发现俄国已经占领阵地,
The ensuing U.S. arms embargo made it impossible for Indonesia to maintain its American-built aircraft. The embargo was lifted in 2005, but Indonesia had already turned to Russia, buying two Sukhoi Su-27SK Flankers and two Su-30MK Flankers in 2003. In 2007, Jakarta announced plans to procure an additional three Su-27SKs and three Su-30MKs for $300 million, with delivery to begin between 2008 and 2012.There have been unconfirmed reports that Russia is offering Indonesia generous government loans to procure up to 20 Su-30MKs,
Russia is more flexible on arms sales than the U.S. In the 2003 Su-27/Su-30 fighter deal, Russia accepted $108 million in palm oil - 40,000 tons - as part of the $197 million payment.
枭龙要是想挤进去,也得花不少功夫
家园 现在最大的问题是巴基斯坦方面认为, 整机它有主导权.而程度坚持认为巴基斯坦拥有的是机体部分的权限.现在巴基斯坦认为自己可以改进,所以推销比够热心,反而中国现在除一些国家外并没有那么热心.因为那些国家要求高了点.
家园 嗯，只要不是牵涉到ZZ的话，观望者们的文章还是写的很不错 PS：巴铁不是阿拉伯国家，真的不是，说了很多遍了，是伊斯兰国家还差不多。