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      • 家园 BBC 上的评论

        comment by hizento (U8679012)

        posted 7 Hours Ago

        Hundreds of malunirished men look like they been dragged off the streets bea

        ting at old dirty drums. The performance lack coordination, flamboyant and e

        scapacism, there were long delays between shows, there is no "wow" factor, s

        ome of the ideas are not original, ie the firework display, the children pai

        nting a cloth (remember Manchester 2002?), the use of projectors highlightin

        g the country's history. Would have been a OK event 40 years ago. Definately

        no Beijing.

        comment by hizento (U8679012)

        posted 7 Hours Ago

        The crowd look a bit bored as well, some resting their chins on their elbow,

        not animated like you would expect from what should be a country's comming

        out party. The stadium doesnt look full. I'm shocked they spent billions on

        this show.

        comment by just_another_person (U14634017)

        posted 7 Hours Ago

        I think you need to stop comparing it to Beijing over and over again. Apprec

        iate the effort put in by the performers & workers, despite the earlier disa

        ppointment by the CWG developers. I think the stadium looks absolutely spect

        acular and the performance was brilliant. good job to sincere workers, and s

        hame to the corrupt politicians that disgraced the country. however, i think

        you need start appreciating the ceremony as opposed to FINDING the negative

        s at this point. Come on, the athletes themselves are saying that the villag

        e is great!

        comment by ACT INDIA (U14634047)

        posted 7 Hours Ago

        India,the Aspiring World No.1 Nation Puts in Awesome & Colossal Display at C

        ommon Wealth Games Opening Ceremony!

        More Enthralling than Fifa Cup !

        A FEATHER IN THE CAP & A CROWNING GLORY FOR INDIA!

        comment by craigwoods (U14634234)

        posted 5 Hours Ago

        Wow! The rising superpower, India! What an amazing show! Absolutely marvelou

        s. I feel it is at par or may be even better than the Beijing Olympics. Keep

        it up India.

        comment by hizento (U8679012)

        posted 5 Hours Ago

        I thought the speech was very long and boring. The second half of the show d

        id picked up, the highlight for me was the yoga and the figure elavated from

        the platform. It is colourful with lots of dancing, very chaotic. It doesnt

        have the slick presentation of the Olympics or the artistic, grandeur and t

        echnical difficulties seen in Beijing 2008. In the end it was a carnival atm

        osphere. For me Delhi 2010 ceremony promote India as place for travel destin

        ation rather than a nation on the verge of becomming a superpower.

        comment by ruchikas (U14634258)

        posted 5 Hours Ago

        Sorry to say, Mr Edwards of BBC.... our ambition is much different from Chin

        a's.

        We are the biggest democracy and they the biggest "non-democracy"....

        Our ambition is every bit democratic and that's the reason the world did see

        the negativism in the Indian media and Delhiites... But no one could say a

        word against the Chinese government.

        For all the rampant development and the social cost and everything else that

        was wrong in China, the world only saw the good side, not so for Delhi. smi

        ley

        Living, Rising, Marching, Winnning.

        Jai democracy! smiley

        comment by hizento (U8679012)

        posted 4 Hours Ago

        Jai, the problem is Delhi shows not the good but what has gone wrong with In

        dia's democracy. People in India is poorer than China despite having 65 year

        s of democracy. In India true democracy only exist for the 10 percent of peo

        ple in the upper caste system, but then again just because a country calls t

        hemselves democracy does does not automatically means better living conditio

        n and also just because a country is a communist one party government doesnt

        mean it is like North Korea or former Soviet Russia.

        comment by Rickydavie (U2341331)

        posted 4 Hours Ago

        Brilliant!!!! I want to go to India. I think the Olympics should take note o

        n how India has presented itself. It is important to win but it is more impo

        rtant to be part of the event.

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        comment by Gav (U11986696)

        posted 4 Hours Ago

        @Hizento

        I wonder if you have ever been to india or know anything about it. I have li

        ved their for many years - worked with Indians. Gentleman commented above is

        absolutely right - the way Indian media went after the event is the proof o

        f democracy at work - something you would never see in China. Point you made

        about more poor in India than China - fact remains all we know is through m

        edia. And media in China is only allowed to show what communists want world

        to see - whereas India is a different story. Take my word - next 3-4 decades

        will be India's - as manufacturing picks up India is on way to grab its sha

        re of world's wealth - as it did 4 centuries ago..

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        comment by Rickydavie (U2341331)

        posted 4 Hours Ago

        Than you for your comment

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        comment by ebrill (U14634299)

        posted 4 Hours Ago

        Brilliant India, but again things are spoilt by the inane chattering of the

        commentators when we are perfectly able to see what is happening but are una

        ble to enjoy the colourful music because of their constant superfluous chatt

        er so much so they drowned out the supposed cheers that heralded the entry o

        f the Welsh sports team, also the constant switching to speak to contestants

        which didn't contribute anything to the ceremony that we were watching but

        was both fatuous & irritating steam

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        comment by hizento (U8679012)

        posted 4 Hours Ago

        Gav, have you ever been to China? Indian media depend on what you read but I

        bet there is Indian media that is highly critical of western media reportin

        g on the negative new. I have witnessed opression in the name of democracy.

        Chinese media and governments never denied negative news it is just that the

        re is on balance more postive than negative. The Chinese PM visited Greece t

        oday, while spporting the EU and its currency he explicited said, like in al

        l previous government report, that China's per capita income is 1/8th of Gre

        ece and his coountry is still a developing country. I would never expect Ind

        ia PM to say anything like that except beating his chest about being the nex

        t superpower. This is stypical of India's over confident, exaggeration and c

        orruption and because they claim they are a democracy everyone are free to t

        ell lies. What I do know is many Chinese cities on the east coast citizens a

        re well fed, has high standard of living, free to say and do anything they w

        ant, can marry who they want. I cant saythe same for even the richest Indian

        city. What I see are gelaming skyscrapers, wide road and luxury cars in Sha

        nghai but all I see in New Delhi are slums and poor whose only pocessions ar

        e the rags on their backs.

        • 家园 "as it did 4 centuries ago"?

          莫卧儿帝国(1526年-1858年),是帖木儿(Timur Lenk)的后裔巴卑尔南下入侵印度建立的帝国。“莫卧儿”意为“蒙古”。在其全盛时期,其领土几乎囊括整个印度次大陸,以及中亚的阿富汗等地。该帝国的官方语言是波斯语,但是统治者是有察合台汗国的蒙古贵族血统的突厥人,信奉伊斯兰教。

          http://zh.wikipedia.org/zh/%E8%92%99%E5%85%80%E5%85%92%E5%B8%9D%E5%9C%8B

          又是被征服被奴役的历史。这哥儿们啥意思?好像自豪的不得了?!

          • 家园 泰姬陵倒是那时候建的

            1658年: 奥朗则布篡位,其统治时期莫卧儿帝国的疆域最大:从喀布尔到吉大港,从克什米尔到卡维里河,除半岛极南端以外的整个次大陆都在莫卧儿帝国的疆域范围内。其变本加厉实行其父的政策,继续向德干高原出兵;推行偏狭的宗教政策;加紧迫害印度教徒;大量拆毁印度教神庙改建清真寺;禁止印度教节日;恢复征收异教徒的人头税。这些倒行逆施,使莫卧儿王朝一度缓和的阶级矛盾、民族矛盾和宗教矛盾再次趋向尖锐,导致一系列的人民起义和教派运动。

            原来三哥历史上最辉煌的一段也是如此血泪斑斑

        • 家园 这句话好玩的很

          they claim they are a democracy everyone are free to t

          ell lies

          • 家园 握手!

            俺也被这句话“打动”了。。。

            看看那几个印度特色的留言,可以用“免煮就是好来就是好”概括。

        • 家园 我们的工人从印度回来后

          对经济学家告诫的未来20年发展中国家可能要大量抢走发达国家工作岗位的说法嗤之以鼻,看到印度之后,他们对于他们孩子这一代的工作岗位都充满了信心。不过他们没有去过中国。

          • 家园 中国的孩子吃苦耐劳远比不上父辈了

            比如苦、脏、累的基建,虽然收入不错,但没35岁以下的农民工基本没有。

          • 家园 惊喜啊

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      • 家园 看了前十几分钟的开幕式

        感觉比自己想象的要好些,但也仅此而已。主要是北京奥运把我的欣赏水平提高到了一个太高的高度,以至于一般的大型表演已经无法激发起我的感叹。所以对印度的开幕式也有些兴趣索然。感觉就是“还可以”。然后就什么都没有了。不过或许对印度人而言,这或许已经是他们的最高水平的表现了。

        那个原先说的神乎其神的大气球没觉得有什么神奇之处,就是个大的投影布,而且投上去的人影还不是很清晰。前面的十几分钟就是鼓乐表演,搬出了不同的鼓,敲出不同的节奏,初听还不错,可是10几分钟的敲就有点审美疲劳了,换点不好吗?怎么敲个没完啊。鼓手也是而且左一堆,右一堆的,开始还以为会摆个莲花或者别的什么特殊造型来吸引眼球。可是什么也没有,就那么散乱的分布在中央表演台的四周,越看越觉得不像是世界上最大民主国家盛大运动会的开幕式,反而更像非洲某一部落的庆贺仪式,连服饰都像。

        镜头里还出现一个小孩在敲鼓,长得很可爱,而且镜头感很强,有时候仿佛知道镜头在拍他,会很灿烂的对着镜头一笑,然后更努力地打鼓。不过我总觉得这里有些猫腻,这孩子的手势和放出来的鼓点总觉得有些不是很合拍,而且这东一撮,西一扎得人堆,又拿着不同的鼓,怎么能敲击出如此一致的鼓点呢?会不会是预先录好的现在不过是摆摆手势?我如此邪恶的想。

        至于那四周随风摇曳的气人,就不多说了。我住的这地方,一般新开张的食店,卖轮胎的或者卖车的都会玩这一招,放几个气人晃啊晃的招揽客户,怎么这堂堂最大民主国家如此没有创意,竟把这一俗招搬办到了开幕式上。这个也太没有水准了。凑数也不时这么凑的!

        如果给评分,给个5分吧,算勉强及格,对印度兄弟而言,这已经算很不错了,估计再高的要求他们也做不到了。

        又看了点剩下的,有了个疑问,怎么运动员进场后都不见了,中间都是些表演者,运动员都去哪儿了?

        • 家园 看看世界地图,

          会发现印度的地图也和非洲很像,把中国看作亚欧大陆,印度的位子就类似非洲大陆了,

        • 家园 看看世界地图,

          会发现印度的地图也和非洲很像,把中国看作亚欧大陆,印度的位子就类似非洲大陆了,

          果然是最大的“民主国家”呀

        • 家园 人家非洲部落会抗议你拿三哥跟他们相比的

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        • 家园 人家只有几天的时间排练。

          几天的排练不可能搞出有点难度的队形来的,所以就只能这么散乱地到场上绕一圈,边走边敲了。

          那个投影也是偷得,看看09年济南全运会开幕式外链出处就知道了,不过偷都没偷到精髓,那投影的艺术性比全运会的差老远呢。

          另:很多运动员据说在场上绕了一圈后都提前离场了,估计是怕安检太长,怕恐怖袭击,怕蚊子袭击。

          • 家园 全运会开幕式确实很惊艳

            可能因为事先关注比较少

          • 家园 我也看了济南的全运会开幕式,很好

            当时是无聊的瞎看,但越看越精神,确实有楼下几位说的觉得比奥运会开幕式好看的感觉。可能是对奥运会开幕式期望太高,对全运会是意外惊喜。精致、漂亮、紧凑,解说是奥运会开幕式同一团队除去老谋子外创作的,由于我对老谋子电影的偏见,听得也是乐嗬嗬的。

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