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主题:【求助】做中国文化的一个解释、阐述、讲课 -- springisok

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      • 家园 I had spanish girlfriend

        before, and I find that Spaniards shared many similarities with Chinese.

        1. very strong family values. In Spain, there was a law which says that if you do not spend time and money to take care of your seniors, you can be penalized by the state.

        2. Do not respect timeliness.

        3. Guanxi: everything is done through friend's friend or friend's relatives. My Dutch friend joked that he rented his first apartment in Madrid through a friend's friend. Do not respect contractual obligations as seriously as the Americans and Germans.

        4. Both nations went through a horrible 100 years of extreme political turmoil and then ended up with a dictator (in Spain's case, Franco) after WWII. Spain was the backwater of EU and it was so eager to join European community in early 1980s and wanted to be "accepted" and recognized by the civilized world.

        Chinese has similar psychological pattern: what Chinese love to talk is 国际惯例 after late 1970s' openup to the outside world. Chinese want to be recognized by the global community for long time and this feeling was obvious in its bid to sponsor the 2008 International Olympics Event. When China won the bid in 2001, the whole Beijing was filled with celebrating crowd. From a typical businessman's perspective, it is a money-losing activity. But from the perspective of national pride, it makes a lot of senses.

        5. Both Spain and China are large export nations: in terms of export of human resources. Many young spaniards left their own country and earned a living in France, Germany or Britain in 1980s and 1990s because political suppression (under Franco then), low domestic pay and better career opportunities. There was a 10-year long housing boom between late 1990s to 2008, and many Spaniards are proud for that. But after the recent sovereign crisis, many Spaniards are fleeing to Germany and Latin America again.

        In 1980s and 1990s, China has a massive exodus of young talents (e.g., Tsinghua U.). There was a small reversal after the American credit crisis, but I think as soon as China slows down again under a bubbling banking sytem, we will see exodus again.

        6. Office culture: both Spaniards and Chinese are very hierarchical.

        7. Spaniards, deeply in their hearts, are very arrogant and proud of their prominent global status in the 15th-17th century, just like Chinese are very proud of their former glory: we can read tons of such articles on this forum. Many people predict that Chinese will beat America soon in terms of economic/military power. Spaniards shared similar national pride as well.

        Actually, Turks also share that kind of pride too. They would tell that a large chunk of today's Europe is just "my ancester's play ground".

        8. BTW, Spanish culture is a very pessimistic culture: it was drawn from many frustrations this nation experienced in the last 500 years.

        9. Spanish culture is a Masculinity culture: men are supposed to show off masculinary appearance, be assertive and be handsome. Spaniards could be quite superficial, if you know them well.

        It is normal for successful men to have mistresses: this is quite similar to today's Chinese. Spaniards were devout Catholics, but now they are just Catholics in name. Chinese claim they have family values, but we also see a slow disintegration of family in today's China.

        Both nations are evolving and today's facts could be quite different from their lip services.

        通宝推:Bullfrog,springisok,
        • 家园 我看更像法国人

          Rachel Emma Silverman 写了篇文章《人类近1000年来的50富豪》,曾于1999年发表在WSJ,其中跟中国有关的富豪,有成吉思汗,忽必烈;纯粹的中国人有和珅,刘瑾(明朝大太监),伍秉鉴(Howqua,WuBingjian,清朝十三行买办),宋子文(T.V.Soong)。

          以《潜规则》闻名的吴思先生把这50人归了归类,发现最多的是掌握暴力机器的统治者(22人);第二是贸易/金融/实业/IT,共18位;贪腐的权贵人数第三多,共4位。

          这4位,中国2位,法国2位。

          旧上海的租界,分“法租界”,“公共租界(Shanghai International Settlement)”两部分。“公共租界”由英美主导,“股东”有英,美,德,日,葡,意等。淞沪抗战时驻防在公共租界维持中立的,是英/美/意大利军。

          “法租界(la concession franaise de Shangha)”由法国单独管理,面积远小于公共租界,只有10平方公里,但包括了今天的徐汇区,卢湾区,和黄浦区一部,至今仍是上海商业的精华区。以这2个租界的管理当局相比较,法租界公董局远比公共租界的工部局要腐败,而更接近旧中国那种“无官不墨”的吃相。

          从以上这两个例子来说,我认为西方人里最像中国人的,是法国人。法国有大革命,我们中国也有大革命;法国的共和之路,不断反复,血流成河,中国也类似。当然,法国没有儒教(不过有天主教),比较激情奔放和追求平等自由,所以法兰西民族在人类进步道路上所达到的功绩(开现代共和国的先河),我们中华民族不一定能赶上,跨越那就暂时不要想了。不过法国人能做好这件事,我们中国人应该也能做好,走出自己的路。

          当然,西班牙人跟法国人也差不离,你当年找个法国女友就好了,直奔真理,不走弯路。

          外链出处

    • 家园 介绍共产党
    • 家园 中庸,天行健自强不息,地势坤厚德载物,易
    • 家园 胡说两个,

      己所不欲勿施于人

      王侯将相宁有种乎

      • 家园 第二个还是不要讲了,他们会以为

        中国人天生就会造反呢。

        • 家园 也可以解释为平等,没有贵族观念

          不正好和某种普世一致吗?

          难道他们骨子里其实不喜欢平等?

        • 家园 其实第二个应该重点讲

          对理解中国为什么是现在这个样子有莫大帮助(包括中国为什么能够接受共产主义)。

          既然讲中国,怎么可以绕开这个?如果是为了让听客欢心,可以选择不讲,但讲了,就得讲本质。

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