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主题:【整理】长江上最后的外国军舰 -- 夏至欧锦

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    • 家园 这件事影响了一大批海外游子。

      记得在《国家命运》里,一个土共土得掉渣的干部对程开甲说,你们从海外归来,不是冲着共产党,是冲着建设新中国来的吧?程说,错,就是冲着共产党来的。我们海外学子在英国听说共党向英军炮舰开炮,觉得振奋。近一个世纪什么时候中国敢向西方开过炮?现在有了,怎么也要回来看看。冲着他们这种胆量,把自己交给这种人也认了。

      通宝推:贼不走空,
    • 家园 有个问题待证实

      长江南岸的国民党炮兵是否是参与了炮击英国军舰?

      依照常理判断:我兔会炮击英军,而秃子绝不会。他们还期待美英干涉,以保住南边半个中国的地盘呢。目前还未看到能证实国民党炮兵炮击英军的资料。

      • 家园 以国军的尿性,它不帮着英国佬打解放军就已是良心发现了。
      • 家园 英舰被国民党军炮打的说法最早来自英方

        “(4月21日)14时,英舰“伦敦”号与“黑天鹅”号经七圩港向下游行驶,当天夜里回到了上海。据报道,“伦敦”号与“黑天鹅”号在返回途中还遭到了国军炮兵的轰击[21]。”

        [21] British warships' Yangtze ordeal, Nationalist guns join in Red's attack. The West Australian. 1949-04-23, page 3.

        LONDON, April 22: The British warships London and Black Swan were fired on by Nationalist batteries on the south side of the Yanqtze as well as by Communists from the north side.

        This was revealed by a high British official source in Shanghai, who said that the Nationalist attack on the 10,000-ton cruiser London and the sloop Black Swan was responsible for some of the damage and casualties suffered by those ships. He said that the attack occurred when the ships were returning down the Yangtze to Shanghai on Wednesday night after abandoning their attempt to rescue the sloop Amethyst following heavy Communist fire from the north bank. The official declined to give further details but said he be lieved that there was no policy involved and the Nationalist attack was probably made by excited units which for weeks had been manning the banks of the Yangtze waiting tensely for the expected Communist attack. "Some of the Nationalist units probably got trigger happy and were prepared to shoot at anything in the river," he said.

        英舰在夜里确实挨了一顿南岸炮弹。不过英舰受到的主要损失来自上午北岸兔子的炮轰,南岸的炮弹迟了十几个小时,所谓“大江南北中国军队炮火夹击”严格来说并没有发生。

        通宝推:侧翼,
        • 家园 这应该就是这个说法的原始出处了

          英国人大概还不知道,还在伦敦号向紫石英号靠拢的时候,南岸国军的江阴要塞全线炮台就已落入共军手中,南岸的炮弹就是共军打的。

          通宝推:阴霾信仰,老老狐狸,okcgb,侧翼,
          • 家园 补充

            《炮打紫石英号——中英长江事件始末》146页:

            在马登中将的一份给海军上将白林特的报告中,马登中将特意提到在江阴附近曾遭一个国军炮兵阵地的射击,给伦敦号造成了相当大的损伤。马登立即下令对此一炮兵阵地进行了回击。“来自伦敦号的报复的炮弹落到了国民党的阵地,招致炮舰Yat Sen号发来信号:‘那是我们的。’黑天鹅号回答‘我仅向朝伦敦号射击的阵地开火。’”

            Yat Sen号即第二舰队的逸仙号。江阴要塞起义的回忆录提到渡江前后,逸仙号和威海号一起巡逻江阴江面,起义当时威海号正在江阴要塞,但没有提到逸仙号的位置。逸仙号后来没有随林遵起义。

      • 家园 可惜萨苏不在河里了

        这个重要细节,他俩应该有考证资料啊

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