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  • 家园 【讨论】带盗版DVD进海关会不会被巨额罚款

    又一次看到这样的网络传言

    我们学校毕业的一个家伙,有点BT,带了80张光盘,被查了,每张5000刀。

    看看楼下的回复

    乖乖,那个是40万美元。

    听说海关还会给被罚的人介绍贷款。。。利息率就不知道了

    先声明一下,俺绝对是对事不对人啊!俺们这些学理工的有时就喜欢没事找事,打破砂锅问到底,嘿嘿

    俺实在是忍不住,在美国这疙瘩这么久,对依法办事的精神俺还是不免有些迷信。祭起“古狗”大神,到底看看是咋回事儿。。。

    先找到美国海关的官方网站,看看官方说法的违禁品

    Articles bearing marks that are counterfeit or inappropriately using a federally registered trademark are subject to seizure and forfeiture.The importation of articles intended for sale or public distribution bearing counterfeit marks may subject an individual to a civil fine if the registered trademark has also been recorded with CBP.

    。。。

    In regard to copyright infringement, articles that are determined by CBP to be clearly piratical of a protected copyright, i.e., unauthorized articles that are substantially similar to a material protected by a copyright, are subject to seizure. A personal use exemption for articles, similar to that described above also applies to copyrighted articles for the personal, non-commercial use of the importer and are not for sale or distribution.

    。。。

    Products subject to copyright protection most commonly imported include software on CD-ROMs, sound recordings, toys, stuffed animals, clothing with cartoon characters, videotapes, DVDs, music CDs, and books. Products subject to trademark protection most commonly imported include handbags and accessories, and clothing.

    这玩意太长了,大伙儿可以去自己看看。俺翻译几处比较有意思的:

    × 盗版DVD属于“违反知识产权”的,手包等属于“违反商标保护”的。

    × 带了“违反商标保护”的东东入关会被没收,有些情况会被罚款;带了“违反知识产权”的东东入关会被没收(没写“罚款”,难道漏了?

    × 每30天可以每类带一件“违反商标保护”或者“违反知识产权”的东东入关,当然必须是自用的!(嗯,下次难道能毫无顾忌的带套《越狱》?

    好像没啥特实在的,那就看看官方说法的2006年大案

    An organization based in the Detroit area was responsible for importing counterfeit Zig Zag cigarette papers with an estimated value of $16 million and selling them well below the cost of the registered brand. The organization also laundered approximately $1 million in proceeds derived from the sale of the counterfeit merchandise. Seven individuals were convicted of federal violations associated with the ongoing criminal enterprise, including trafficking in counterfeit goods, conspiracy, money laundering, false statements and perjury. Defendants were ordered to pay over $6 million in restitution to the trademark holder and three of them will be removed from the United States on completion of their prison sentences.

    。。。

    Operation Spring, the first U.S.-Sino joint undercover law enforcement operation in the People's Republic of China (PRC) resulted in the arrest of a U.S. citizen in Shanghai and the forfeiture of 160,000 counterfeit DVDs. The U.S. citizen was initially convicted of violating PRC counterfeiting laws prior to being expelled to the United States, where he was sentenced to 60 months incarceration and three years supervised release and fined $15,000 for conspiracy to traffic in counterfeit DVDs and other related charges. The individual also forfeited criminal proceeds of $823,833 to the U.S. government.

    也够长的,注意到俩案子的细节:

    × 那位造了一万六千盗版DVD的老兄,在美国被判了5年,罚款1.5万美元,另外没收非法所得80多万。

    × 那个走私价值1600万美元香烟纸的那伙人,因为“违反商标保护”被罚600万!

    想想那个80张DVD,每张(估计在美零售价约20美元)罚5000美元,实在是有点儿匪夷所思。

    听了这么多传言,也上网查一下,看来“古狗”不成,新闻里只找到一篇《海关查盗版DVD华人入境小心》

    中国大陆一个旅美专业人士团体日前透露,其会员前不久在旧金山国际机场入境时,因携带了一百多张包括淫秽内容的盗版DVD影碟,遭机场海关重罚了十多万元。在循法律途径解决不果后,该会员不得已只好变卖房产,缴纳罚金。

    。。。

    根据「1982年美国盗版和走私修正法案」,被查获的盗版制品持有人将面临最低罚款2万5000元或一年以下监禁,最高罚款25万元或五年以下监禁的处罚。

    发生在2004年,看来最近是涨价了。不过看着那出处,怎么也觉着有些道听途说的感觉。。。

    至于文中提到的那个修正法案,俺也顺手查到了,放在这里:

    § 506. Criminal offenses5

    (a) Criminal Infringement. - Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either -

    (1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or

    (2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000,

    shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, United States Code. For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement.

    相关的处罚(section 2319 of title 18)

    § 2319. Criminal infringement of a copyright

    How Current is This?

    (a) Whoever violates section 506 (a) (relating to criminal offenses) of title 17 shall be punished as provided in subsections (b) and (c) of this section and such penalties shall be in addition to any other provisions of title 17 or any other law.

    (b) Any person who commits an offense under section 506 (a)(1) of title 17—

    (1) shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $2,500;

    (2) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a second or subsequent offense under paragraph (1); and

    (3) shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, in any other case.

    (c) Any person who commits an offense under section 506 (a)(2) of title 17, United States Code—

    (1) shall be imprisoned not more than 3 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 10 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of $2,500 or more;

    (2) shall be imprisoned not more than 6 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a second or subsequent offense under paragraph (1); and

    (3) shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000.

    懒得翻译了,这法律太复杂了。

    搞了半天,俺还是对那些网络传闻存疑,到底有没有哪位亲眼见过啊?

    关键词(Tags): #盗版DVD
    • 家园 身边没有这样的例子,所以只能推测

      那个每张$5000的例子肯定有问题,因为总数是40万,超过了对个人这类犯罪处罚的上限25万。不过如果总共罚5000还是有可能的,平均每张$60,离MSRP的两倍(罚款依据)差得不多。

      带盗版DVD电影电视对应的法律是18 USC 2318。带盗版软件的法律是18 USC 2320。从DOJ发布的年度报告来看,06年对这两款相关犯罪的起诉率比以前高了不少,证明打击力度在加大。还是小心些好吧。

    • 家园 俺一同学曾经带过200张盗版的……

      A片。。。。。。

      不过现在大硬盘那么便宜,还是直接带硬盘的好,非要带光盘的话就按楼下寞洑兄说的办,撤掉包装用CD包,一般海关不大检查的

    • 家园 要小心为上
    • 家园 有几点注意事项,都是道听途说来的,跟我没关系,哈

      第一不要带太多。第二不要带重复的,也就是说光碟从外观上看是一样的,而且最好是光面。第三包装纸(袋)一律撤掉,用cd包。

      电影类要买贵些的,包装精美,有出版社名称(至于存在与否不重要),有的甚至还附带宣传册。

      特别注意,不要给别人带密封好的包裹,除非东西是当着你的面封好的,上次一个朋友回国,他一个朋友(某功成员)托他带个包裹回国,说是营养品之类的礼品,他留了一个心眼,私自拆开了,结果里面都是宣传品,要是在中国海关被查到了,估计有嘴都说不清了。

    • 家园 说说我的亲身经历

      第一次来澳州的时候,某远房亲戚说让我给她在澳洲的儿子带一包药,当时我什么都没怀疑,外加她小包裹打得严严实实,我就连看也没看,就是感觉挺重就塞到包里了。

      结果到悉尼海关,因为我带的茶叶和一些中成药被搜箱检查。其中一个海关猛男把那个小包拿出来拆了,里面全是盗版游戏!当时我心里咯噔一下,不过最后大概因为上面都是中文字,他又给包好放回去了。

      事后他们家人跟我倒了歉,但他们没想到的是这堆游戏把自己孩子给害了。一年多以后,这个孩子学习出勤率一堆问题没续成签证回国了。

      我身边也有些人带盗版过来,而且是为了挣钱。他把光盘码成一摞,放在电饭煲等电器里面。到了悉尼就在学校里卖,生活费都出来了。而且目前没有失手。

      失手的是某人的房东,其实带得不多,有重复。比如蜘蛛人带了3张,黑客带了4张之类。最后被罚几万澳币。

      所以我也支持用硬盘做个镜像,带硬盘就行了,到时候找盘刻出来就行了。其他就网上下了。

      • 家园 直接在网上下载啊

        BT下载,自己刻盘送人或者买皆可。

      • 家园 这些人怎么都这样啊?

        难怪小孩子也教不好的。。。

      • 家园 ……

        带硬盘就行了,到时候找盘刻出来就行了
        说起来容易做起来难啊!俺回国的情况比较特殊,一般总得跑至少4、5个城市,每个地方待不了几天,而且俺那些亲戚家好像几乎都没有电脑。。。

        • ……
          家园 原来如此

          那我感觉寞洑老兄的办法较好,去掉包装放到cd包里面,安全系数基本上99.9%了

      • 家园 所以游戏我从来不带,也不帮人带

        事后他们家人跟我倒了歉,但他们没想到的是这堆游戏把自己孩子给害了。一年多以后,这个孩子学习出勤率一堆问题没续成签证回国了。

    • 家园 还是地主厉害。俺是年年代,次次带,一次也没被查过。

      当然,俺都是带的盗版游戏,而且大部分都是国产的。呵呵。

    • 家园 地主又干坏事了,大家快来赞呐!!!
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