曾经很认真的做过口袋机10X的功课,以体积是一票否决权的话,其实能够入围的只有科达的V610和佳能的TX1.tz3和他们比体积要大出50%以上.TX1在dpreviw里是直接和TZ3比较pp的,我和编辑都认为是优而胜之,所以对TZ3的认识是除了便宜无可取.TX1呢,现在实在又太贵了点........

复请教河友，10倍光学变焦家用数码哪个比较好

家园

生物专业?....热闹了

千万问清楚,要是确实是Zoology方面考量,一步到位中高端APS单反机身+一门600/4的重炮吧...

否则在上600/4之前的钱都是白花的

玩笑玩笑.既然不用卡片机,那干脆还是上好了DSLR好了.预算考量,一个带机身马达的廉价中古型号机身例如350D加Sigma的18-200mm f/3.5-6.3那只10倍变角头应该800来美刀就拿下来了...这样以后抱怨看得不够远而且老是手抖拍废片的时候还可以保留机身上700-300IS

变焦很慢? 什么意思

没有那么夸张吧

柯达的在画质上一向口碑不太好，所以也没有留意，看图片确实体积小巧。TX1我同样没有太留意，因为这个机器的卖点似乎在于创新性的把camcorder和相机的功能结合在一起，作为第一代这类产品往往不太成熟。而且我在看测评的时候也不够严肃，呵呵，总是在了解参数和功能以后直接跳到“结论”部分去。在结论部分，dpreview如是说

After using the TX1 daily for a few weeks I did get more used to it, but still found myself searching for the shutter release every time I went to take a shot. I dreaded my wife handing the camera to someone and saying 'hey take a picture of us together' as it inevitably ended up with us standing with slowly-drooping fixed smiles as we waited for them to work out how to actually take a picture.

And yet I did grow to like the TX1 - or least the idea behind it. It's quite an achievement to squeeze so much functionality into something genuinely pocketable, and it is a lovely 'thing'; well made, fast and surprisingly capable. I loved the fact that I could switch so seamlessly from shooting stills to capturing high quality movie clips (putting aside the 'is it really 'HD' or not' argument; VGA is plenty big enough for me), I liked the overall responsiveness and I liked the fact that I could hang it off my wrist all day without getting arm ache.

But ultimately I personally couldn't get on with the vertical design and idiosyncratic handling, I missed shots because by the time I'd turned it on, flipped the screen out and positioned my fingers correctly the moment was lost. But I guess the real killer for me is that I want a camera to be a camera first and a camcorder second, and anything that makes shooting in vertical (portrait) orientation so damned awkward is never going to find a permanent home chez moi.

As a walk around camera with better-than-average movie capabilities and a big zoom the TX1 has a lot to recommend it, and it's important to stress that handling is to a fairly large extent a personal thing, so I wouldn't write it off completely. Just don't buy it thinking it's a replacement for a 'proper' HD camcorder and be aware that the ergonomics are, well, unusual.

I'd really, really recommend going to a store and trying it for yourself before committing; this is a cool, fun gadget with surprisingly good image quality, but for me it's not a camera I found easy to live with - especially not at the best part of $500. I'd personally forget the movie stuff, save my self $150 and go for a Panasonic TZ3, which might not be as cute but has a more useful zoom range and handles like a proper camera. There is undoubtedly a market for this kind of product, but I think Canon needs to go back to the drawing board before it launches the TX2.

所以我就把TZ3排在TX1之前了。而且似乎测评的作者对TX1的人机工程有点怨言，使用上不太顺手的样子。

其实我现在最感兴趣的是即将推出的SX100，加拿大的一些店已经开始接受预定，价格399 CND，比TZ3便宜（一般 449-499 CND）。光看参数，这个SX100比TZ3强，特别是手动功能丰富。个头略大一些。没注意有没有28mm的广角。老兄觉得这个机器咋样？

复没有那么夸张吧

家园

PP质量还是很重要的

我觉得相机最重要的参数始终应该是PP的质量,并以此为基准来衡量性价比.口袋机的话,再加上体积.所以一直很看好TX1,这个是真正可以长期揣口袋的机器,除了他的价格实在crazy.体积是1.14X2.36X3.5,tz3是1.47X2.37X4.2,大了55%.sx100的体积更大了点.功能上讲,DC的手动功能,我觉得要么一点都不要,要有就要尽可能足,我以前的机器是C记的2100,除了P档(DC因为基本不能用光圈控制景深,也不需要收缩光圈提高画质,A档和DSLR的A档功能不能比,还不如P档实用,S档更不实用,因为DC的最高快门速度普遍太慢),只用过M档.没有真正的M档的话,其他功能都是花架子.

复 PP质量还是很重要的

家园

C也有2100啊，我有个O的2100uz，呵呵。为2100干杯。

复 C也有2100啊，我有个O的2100uz，呵呵。为2100干杯。

家园

呀,不好意思,笔误笔误,干杯干杯!

俺的正是2100uz.如果你喜欢它的话,S5你应该感到很亲切啊?S3/S5的镜头实际上就是2100uz镜头的下一代,加了UD后,紫边问题改善了不少.当年差点上了S3,不过后来咬牙上了30D,就只关心口袋10X机了.

复 ld的邪恶想法，我也完全不明白

家园

呵呵，看起来你LD需要一个

好的高倍望远镜，然后连个常用焦段质量不错的相机就行了，有点像单反的增倍镜。

复呀,不好意思,笔误笔误,干杯干杯!