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家园 我一直怀疑周董在台湾隐藏了其强烈的左倾政观

最早有感觉,是某次周董忽然按耐不住,好好的突然破口骂哈韩的是没脑子的还是什么的……

再看他自己填的歌词,啧啧

家园 这次实力不够,下次

如果不安排这句,我们就一起去中南海抗议吧...

家园 Seriously

原来我以为“溥天之下莫非王土,率土之滨莫非王臣”是落后的思想形态,读了一点罗马历史才发现这是非常先进的思想,--简直是超级先进。

家园 对了

老祖宗已经预见我们的未来了。赫赫

家园 人家

一80++岁老太太,早过不惑之年了,平时就聊些家常,如此而已。

人家
家园 80+++是不惑之年的两倍吧

80叫什么?孔子没活到那个岁数,73就挂了,所以只留下了从心所欲不逾矩……

家园 周董从没隐藏

前几年就公开说过自己是中国人,政治表现很好,被一部分绿色青年骂作卖台。

家园 原来如此,是我孤陋寡闻,花谢
家园 原来如此啊。我一直不喜欢他,看来要改变了。
家园 美国人本就没有什么民族主义

溥天之下莫非王土,率土之滨莫非王臣
是他们心态的最真实写照。还需要什么民族主义呢(何况这美利坚民族恐怕是最没有凝聚力的民族了)。

往好听了说那就是大家都要遵循普世价值,民主自由神圣不可侵犯。

往实在里说那就是大家都得老老实实的按我们设定的路数来,不然抽你丫的。

家园 希望有血性的中国人都不要忘记这一段+补充资料。

当美国“误炸”中国大使馆的时候,美国官方的第一反应竟然是声明不会为此道歉。当美国侦察机在南海上空撞落中国飞机的时候,美国政府宣布绝不会停止在中国沿海的侦察活动。银河号事件、李文和案件、对藏独疆独的支持,每一件都深深伤害了中国人民的感情。可以说,西方很多民众是很善良的,但作为一个整体的西方,尤其是他们的政府,对中国是非常恶毒的。当然,西方的恶毒针对的不只是中国,而是所有“非我族类”,尤其是发展中国家。最露骨的表演之一,是默克尔解释德国食品价格上涨时找的原因,是中国人开始喝牛奶、印度人开始吃第二顿饭。看看,为了保障民主自由的德国人吃到廉价食品的权利,同样民主自由的印度人连吃第二顿饭的权利都没有!元首万岁!

同时补充德国元首这个“多吃论”的原始出处以及玉照一张,欢迎各路“砖家叫兽”用“普适价值”论证元首这番话代表了西方发达国家对促进人类进步的“诚意”。

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Reuters: Bad policy, not biofuel, drive food prices - Merkel

BERLIN (Reuters) - Bad agricultural policies and changing eating habits in developing nations are primarily to blame for rising food prices, not biofuel production as some critics claim, German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Thursday.

Environmentalists and humanitarian groups have stepped up campaigning against biofuels, arguing they divert production away from food and animal feed while contributing to sharp rises in the price of cereals and milk products.

But Merkel, whose country is Europe's largest biofuel producer, said the rise in food prices was not mainly due to biofuels but to "inadequate agricultural policies in developing countries" as well as "insufficient forecasts of changes in nutritional habits" in emerging markets.

"If you travel to India these days, then a main part of the debate is about the 'second meal'," Merkel said.

"People are eating twice a day, and if a third of one billion people in India do that, it adds up to 300 million people. That's a large part of the European Union," she said.

"And if they suddenly consume twice as much food as before and if 100 million Chinese start drinking milk too, then of course our milk quotas become skewed, and much else too," she said referring to EU limits on dairy production.

Biofuels, which are seen by supporters as a way to increase energy security and reduce greenhouse gas emissions, are made mainly from food crops such as grains, oilseeds and sugar.

Critics argue there are few, if any, environmental benefits for so-called first generation biofuels. They have also been blamed for increasing grain demand and pushing up prices at a time of growing threat of famine in some parts of the world.

The FAO and the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) have said biofuels were "one of the main drivers" for forecasts of food price increases of 20 percent to 50 percent by 2016.

(Reporting by Gernot Heller, editing by Kerstin Gehmlich and Mary Gabriel)

关键词(Tags): #默克尔#粮食危机

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家园 以一例证明爱国主义是“主流价值观”,是“普适价值观”。

Our challenges may be new. The instruments with which we meet them may be new. But those values upon which our success depends — hard work and honesty, courage and fair play, tolerance and curiosity, loyalty and patriotism — these things are old. These things are true. They have been the quiet force of progress throughout our history. What is demanded then is a return to these truths. What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility — a recognition, on the part of every American, that we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world, duties that we do not grudgingly accept but rather seize gladly, firm in the knowledge that there is nothing so satisfying to the spirit, so defining of our character, than giving our all to a difficult task.

美利坚合众国巴拉克奥巴马总统2009年就职演说

欢迎各路“砖家叫兽”论证爱国主义是狭隘的,是土共操纵民意的手段。

关键词(Tags): #爱国主义#民族主义#奥巴马
家园 从这里来说,科大说的也有些过分吧

看看,为了保障民主自由的德国人吃到廉价食品的权利,同样民主自由的印度人连吃第二顿饭的权利都没有

德国老妇人是说了

德国食品价格上涨时的原因,是中国人开始喝牛奶、印度人开始吃第二顿饭

可并没有说这样的涨价是不对的,所以印度人不该吃第二顿饭,中国人不该吃牛奶

这样引申推论批判起来是很爽,也很能满足不少人的期望,

不过何妨冷静一点来看呢?

家园 中国的普通老百姓恐怕连这么想都不会,何况是说出来吧!
家园 如果坚持字面意思的话,你的说法是对的。不过,

每个人的理解可以有很大不同。我这么说吧:

1.科大不是第一个这么说的。我们可以看看有良知的西方人是如何评价的:Merkel blames the victim

Merkel is blaming the food crisis on the poorest people, the ones who are the victims. They are eating two meals a day instead of one. And, gosh, if those Chinese start drinking milk, then we'll really be in trouble!

I'm sorry, but how can this be reported on a major news service and not provoke an outcry from anyone with a conscience! Could there be any clearer expression of disdain and contempt? Any more gut-wrenching glimpse into the psyche of the deviant?

【翻译】默克尔把粮食危机归罪于这些最穷的人,而这些人是(粮食危机的)受害者。他们现在每天吃两顿而不是一顿。天哪,如果那些中国人开始喝牛奶了,那我们可就真的有麻烦了。

对不起,这种言论怎么可能被一个主要新闻社所报道而没有激起任何有良心的人的痛斥!还有比这种言论更能表现(默克尔对中印的)轻蔑和鄙视吗?对这位“逆天者”的心理大伙儿还有啥更多的见解?

我前面文章的照片就来自于一篇西方知识分子的博客文章。可惜我没有存下原始链接,只存下了路透社的报道。

2.我很赞赏您的冷静和理性,这是我给出原始出处的原因,也是西西河重视原始出处的原因--把原始材料呈现在读者面前,让读者自己判断。原创作者的解读可以有偏颇的地方,但是只要原始材料在,观点错了也没有关系。就像物理学里的peer review,理论可以错了,但是实验数据在哪儿。

3.群众往往不是冷静和理性的,政治家的演说可以通过巧妙的修辞对群众的潜意识进行潜移默化,然后携“民意”对中国做出不利的事情而不受选民的惩罚。08年西藏骚乱之后西方,尤其是欧洲的反华,是多年文宣的结果。我有朋友在法国待过,对其中细节有具体描述。修辞学是西方知识分子从古到中世纪必修的“六艺”之一,我们在这方面是远远落后了。(六艺即:修辞,算术,语法,建筑,天文,音乐。记忆如有错误还请见谅。)

4.我不便代表科大胡不归,但是在特定情况下,“矫枉必须过正”是必要的。在这件事的解读上,科大或有过激之处,但是要写一篇绝对“中庸,客观理性”的文章是很难的。看他的大意即可。我在他的文后补充的原始材料,就是为您这样的读者准备的。很高兴您有与他不同的看法。


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