主题：【西西家园】游戏大纲讨论稿 -- 西风陶陶
也就不枉了。
开什么样的买卖会有需求，是用招股，还是找银行筹集资本，要不要通过议员立有利于经营的法律；等资本积累好了，做什么样的投资。这些实实在在的商业运作是金融体系的基础。有了眼力可以判断价值，便能识破各种玩弄赌徒心理的把戏了。
要不就先开个西西家园内的股市？
要求会很高。我去打听一下有没有同学见过金融市场的模拟软件。
Sorry I am very slow at typing chinese and quite busy, so I will make my thoughts in english as following:
1. Need establish the market, products, and transactions for the whole system to run. Bank and financial institutions are natural by products for such transactions.
2. We have products already, i.e. original articles and posted good articles that user are willing to buy and read.
3. The price for these original articles and others will be decided by the writer, and potential buyers, i.e. readers, can use their experience points to buy and read before the article become free after certain period.
4. The owner of the article will have to decide the price and duration of it. He/she need pay the rent also to the forum manager. After that period, the article should become free to everyone, which is designed for low experience users.
5. Forum managers are responsible for the P/L for the forum that he/she manages. He/she need pay the rent fee to the central goverment.
6. Transcactions, i.e. buy the article, will be taxed. The sales tax will go to central goverment.
7. Other transactions, such as betting, will be treated differently, since the writer will not only to pay the rent to the forum manager, but also pay back to winners.
8. Bank and financial institutions are managed by certain people with enough funding. They can design their products, i.e. loans.
9. Income tax will be applied to each user.
10. (more detailed rules needed).
Have fun... 
看上去杭州兄给人设计过Ecommerce exchanges，哈哈。
if you guys want... I will write them up in this weekend....
把文章当作商品，对西西河的读者是不是有点太...
我想西西河有很多潜水爱好者，大家往往被萨苏等文章大家给吸引过来的，如果卖文的话，能有资格当成商品买卖的文章，或者能火热上市的应该也只有几位高质量写手的文章，那样的话，没有足够现金或者分文不名的潜水员们岂不是干着急？多打击情绪呀。
我有个想法，能不能把这个西西家园的一切经营分离于现有的西西河之外呢？就算是西西河的支流吧。也就是说，西西论坛仍然照旧，所有会员及访客照样能够欣赏文章，任意灌水。另外开辟一片西西家园/经济开发区，建立各项经营体系，开发区与论坛的关系就是：每个会员自动拥有开发区的通行证，开发区的货币可以从会员的积分转换。
不过像芥兰说的，要控制转换的比例，而且，不要把积分作为唯一的货币来源，毕竟积分是通过论坛灌水来的，这样可以控制通过灌水洗钱的。其他的渠道，除了银行借贷，可以考虑通过中央银行给每位有意进入开发区的会员每人一笔安家费嘛。
开发区的兴盛，当然要看商品的需求与供应控制得如何，何不搞一个投票，调查一下西西河会员们希望消费的商品有哪些？希望提供的商品有哪些？比如我，我就不会希望谁把文章作为商品买卖。在不为法的范围之内，有些高质量的图片，音像作品，甚至最近火得很的gmail 1 G的邮件信箱的invitation都是很好的商品呀(连ebay上都卖的挺不错的呢）。
随便的几点想法...算是给金融高手们反映一下民意。
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1. Intellectual property should be respected and rewarded even though here we don't have the mechanism yet.
2. Each user will be given experience points based on the time he/she spent on this web site. This is equivalent of cash infusion for each user. I don't know the ratio yet. It's also same as central bank's control on M1.
3. By letting the writer decide the price, we create demand and supply, which is essential for a market with transactions.
4. The writer will have to decide the duration of such period. Any user who want to read the article, he/she will need to pay for it. If user doesn't have enough experience points, then he/she can wait until the duration expires, i.e. the article become free. It's similar as news or newspaper article.
5. The writer have to set the price properly. If the poster don't believe there is buyer during the duration, then he/she can make its price as 0, or free, for that kind of post, writer don't need pay for the publishing fee. If the price is set too high, then there will be no buyer within that duration. He/she will lose money since he/she need pay the publishing fee. The duration should not be too long, mostly 1 to 2 days. Market itself will make everyone adjust their commercial behavior...
6. Other news or posts are good material for reading if the price is low enough since user don't need go elsewhere to find them by themself.
7. These are only my thoughts or suggestions. I am writing up in more detail and will share with others to see how we can make this site more fun and userful for everyone.
8. The central goverment can control the M1, the money supply to individual user based on their online time, thus make almost every have enough experience point to read decent articles.
9. All these are virtual money and virtual economic. A little bit entry barry will make each user to spend more time on this site and more incentive for writer to gather more money.
10. I am not quite sure on whehter we even can implement these rules under current system yet.
11. Will detail in next one... 
以前都是免费的，突然收费了，会有很多人不适应。虽说是虚拟游戏，也不能强迫每一个人都玩。所以说，游戏还是新创造项目好。杭州兄请再出主意。
在某种程度上，家园是对论坛的补充。家园的建设，任何人可以根据自己的兴趣，可参加可不参加。
论坛的管理会继续相对严格，并且不保证“民主”。
家园怎么建设，大家可自由，并且可以在相当程度上实现在论坛不能实现的东西。
冰酒的担心不无道理
http://www.cchere.com/article/204438
会慎重对待。
lot. Never mind. Have fun.
看原创贴收费有一定积极的意义。目前想到几点：
1、对作者的劳动是一种尊重和认同，同时激发大家的创作热情。大家能够愿意为虚拟中的房子，墙上的画饼付费，为什么不能对于实实在在的帖子支付一些货币呢。自于收费价格，我想如果能够有效的控制货币流通量，应该是大家都能承受得起的。再说，帖子付费的时间是一定的，过期就免费，作者也不会将价格设得太高，否则，就如hangzhou兄说的那样，反而会亏本。
2、可以有效的保护个人隐私。比如，有些文章、照片什么的自想让老朋友们看到，而不愿意让所有人都看见，作者就可以将价格设到一定的高度来实现这一目标。这样会给大家在论坛互动时一个安全感，减少恶意攻击的发生。
3、这个措施同时也提供了一个和其他网站论坛互动的机会。比如柚子网。这样西币和柚币之间的交换就有了一个物质基础。有了这样的交换，对于两边的网友都是一件大好事，完全是一个pareto improvement,呵呵。
只是要坚持一条，由文章的主人设定是否收费和收多少，并缺省为不收。这样，估计会形成风气，大部分文章不收费。收费的是一些很特殊的内容，比如照片。也就是说，这个收费的机制只是备用的。只要大部分人坚持，就不会被滥用。
另外，还可以加一种模式，就是看的人决定付多少。也就是我国古代的“卖唱”模式。
“打赏”这里并不是贬义，主要是对我自己来说，有时候看到一些人的好的帖子，感觉茅晒顿开，真想给作者点鼓励与奖励，于是赠其积分应该可以是一种很好的表达方式。
这种方式也同样起到刺激原创作者文风更严谨的作用。这个想法我以前也提过，希望大家考虑。