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家园 在热带丛林里一个半小时走五公里只有一种可能

这是正常人在平坦道路上正常步行的速度了,在热带丛林里,除非有现成的较好的道路,否则背负作战装备的军人开路行进,一小时能走500米才是正常的。

家园 呵呵,再查下去,发现原来老缅也让穆斯林折腾的不善

难怪老米见缝插针的下手

缅甸穆斯林状况

家园 文革的时候有个纱甸事件,张承志的心灵史中有关于云南门宦的

描写

家园 那他就更不可能知道跟军队有关的真实情况了

特种部队这种尖刀,尤其是见了血的,还是见的美国人的血,你一个普通小老百姓都知道了,美国人会不知道吗?

你什么时候见过美国特种部队吃了亏不报复的?就算是索马里那个事,3年后美国人还是报复了

事实上在动用暴力机器去维护国家利益的时候,大国之间是相当谨慎的,当年南海撞机那么紧张的国际背景下,也没见到真的出动特种部队

家园 one possibility

sorry, i can't type chinese.

i think there is probably some sort of road/trail in the forest to connect the camp to the outside world.to build a training camp, it needs lots of material & equipment. to maintain the camp & train people, it also requires lots of supplies & need to transport the people from outside to the camp.

the article also mentions "发现美国武装人员,从中方计划撤退的线路上正在向营地快速逼近". if they moved quickly in the forest, probably they were using some kind of road.

if there is a trail/small road in the forest, then people can move fast.

家园 当时没有可供直升机运送的轻便交通工具

对于人腿来说,路况再好也提高不了多大的速度

家园 讲一个真实的故事,也是在原始森林穿插-------

50公里的原始森林穿插只用了不可思议的一个半小时就全部到达了围歼位置

只用了一个半小时?原始森林穿插50公里?5公里恐怕也做不到!

不信,就看一个真实的故事吧:

记得87年上高中,学校请了一个参战的侦察兵来校作报告,讲述他在自卫还击战的战斗经历。就讲到,一次他们进入越南境内去侦察,也是在热带雨林里,他们走一步,就必须用砍刀砍断森林里的纵横交错的藤条、树枝、竹子等等,才能向前进一步。走一步,砍一步,否则寸步难行。最后,行进一整天,查看地图,原来走了仅仅一公里!

这才是原始森林中真正的行军,靠想象和臆测是荒诞和脱离实际的,当然会让人不可思议!

家园 恭喜:意外获得 8 铢钱。

参数变化,作者,声望:1;铢钱:0。你,乐善:1;铢钱:7。本帖花:1

家园 “潘泰”(Panthay)一词可能是"叛党"的音译,

"“潘泰”(Panthay)。“潘泰”一词究竟是什么意思,"===“潘泰”(Panthay)一词可能是"叛党"的音译.于官府来说,那些敢于举起反旗的不是被称做乱党就是称做叛党,草民造反是为作乱,有功名者为叛乱.杜文秀16岁中秀才,为有功名在身者.

杜文秀起义过去了130年,到了今天,他起兵的起因仍引起人们的深思。他家世代赶马经商,家道殷实,衣食无忧,有钱让他进私塾读书,受过良好的教育。他还在保山城内的四牌坊开了一家茶铺,生意兴隆,是有产阶级。他16岁中秀才,还是一位由县政府供应伙食的廪生,像他这样的人接受了儒家思想后,向往的是读书中举、入朝为官、光宗耀祖,不会冒着毁家的危险,与朝廷对抗。他身无反骨,胸无反意,一度把正义与公道的希望寄托在皇帝身上,但到了事事绝望、万念俱灰时,一个文弱书生也会铤而走险,硬是把大清帝国的天捅开了一个大窟窿。

外链出处

家园 可能吗?50公里的原始森林穿插只用了一个半小时就全部到
家园 交通工具

don't need to use the helicopters to carry 交通工具. it's possible that 交通工具 can be pre-arranged to the landing area. it could be trucks if there is a road to the training camp, or it could be boats if there is a river goes through the forest to the camp.

it's reasonable to assume china has undercovers/insiders in the camp & nearby area so they know the camp location and other info before the attack. these people could pre-arrange the transportation tools in advance before the attack.

the author has said he made a mistake about the statement "50公里的原始森林穿插只用了不可思议的一个半小时". "50公里" could be a typo, and"一个半小时" could be a typo, but the word "不可思议" couldn't be a typo. "不可思议" means the author is very surprised by how fast they got through the forest.

on the other hand, the author didn't correct the miles or time in his statement. obviously if he provides the actual miles/time or kept saying "50公里" &"一个半小时", he'll need to provide the details/explain how it could be done. this is something he probably doesn't want to get into/say in the public.

家园 the camp

think about you need to build & maintain a training camp in the forest: you'll need lots of materials/equipments to build the camp, and you'll need lots of supplies & foods to maintain the camp everyday. however, the most important thing for the camp is water. you can build a road to carry all of these things to the camp from the outside world, or if there is a river goes through the forest, you can build a camp closed to the river & the river can also be used for transportation too.

家园 国之利刃

穿插这个事,是《国之利刃》中开头片段,分秒不差

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