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家园 非常认同,从负责任的立场出发。

非常认同,从负责任的立场出发。可惜这是一个大下岗,驱低端,喜欢玩阵痛的班子,让香港加入阵痛行列,也是轻松的事。

家园 500人?

几个签名的?都戴着口罩呢!

这样畏畏缩缩没一点担当的人,多十倍又如何?

家园 哈哈哈,谁给你的脸代表西方舆论?进来看西方舆论

https://eurasiafuture.com/2019/07/16/is-hong-kong-destined-to-be-the-venice-of-asia/

Is Hong Kong Destined to be The Venice of Asia?

At the height of its trading and shipping prowess, the Republic of Venice was arguably the most commercially successful place in the world. Its advantageous location at the western end of the traditional silk road, its shipping connections to multiple great trading routes to Asia and its vital role as Europe’s major trading port of entry helped to make Venice both a prosperous and pleasant society.

Unfortunately for the Venetians, the opening up of Atlantic trading routes in the late 15th century and the rise of new commercial/military powers in both Europe and west Asia lead to the small Republic’s eventual decline. Venice’s fall from geo-economic importance was gradual but by the time the Republic of Venice had ceased to be in the age of Napoleon, the wider world had long moved on.

Before China’s Reform and Opening Up, before the rise of Lee Kuan Yew’s Singapore, before Japan’s post-war recovery and South Korea’s economic miracle there was Hong Kong. As Britain became ever less interested in the world “east of Suez”, Hong Kong was politically a relic of a bygone age but its internal economic development took the world by storm.

The rise of Hong Kong to the position of a major financial and trading centre owed much to the same innovative and hard working Chinese characteristics that transformed the mainland after 1978. Indeed, by the late 1970s both Hong Kong and the former British colony of Singapore were small places whose economic weight began to embarrass those in a Britain that looked all together broken during that same period in time.

When Hong Kong was reunited with the rest of China in 1997, its economic dynamism continued and indeed still continues to play an important part in a China that now has at least a dozen economic super-cities. But as the world continues to change, recent extremist protests in Hong Kong have demonstrated that some Hong Kong people are interested in looking to an imagined past rather than adapting to the future.

Whether calling for the internationally discredited and woefully unpopular liberalism that has been shunned even in the places of its conception (think Britain’s Brexit and America’s Trump), holding a colonial era flag amid a desecrated legislative chamber or attacking fellow Chinese from other parts of the vast country, the petty obscurantist parochialism of the Hong Kong protesters is not only bad for present day business but it is bad for Hong Kong’s long term future growth and development.

Whilst Venice was in many ways too small to adapt to a changing Europe and whilst its small size prohibited it from competing militarily with larger rivals, Hong Kong as part of the world’s second largest economy and a nuclear armed military superpower has some distinct advantages over the Republic of Venice in its final centuries.

Hong Kong’s reunification with the rest of China offered it opportunities to transform itself from a potentially isolated city within a moribund British empire into one of many Chinese super-cities that each have a cooperative role to play within the large and harmonious framework that is the People’s Republic of China.

The one country – two systems model has allowed Hong Kong to receive the economic and military protection of being part of a global superpower whilst also retaining its unique Republic of Venice like local characteristics.

It is therefore nothing short of absurd that short sighted and non-thinking protesters should wish to violently drag Hong Kong towards a fate that befell the Republic of Venice due to long term external pressures and aggression. Whilst the Republic of Venice was murdered, Hong Kong is looking ever more suicidal.

If it is really the dream of some in Hong Kong to be an isolated and ignored entity living off a combination of limited internal productivity and western “charity” (foreign “charity” that as always will come at the expense of political and cultural sovereignty), then such people are not only lawless but are clueless. No country in the world can or would ever seek to commit acts of aggression against China in a fight to restore Hong Kong to its erstwhile status as part of a British Empire which no longer exists.

To imagine Hong Kong as some sort of semi-independent western satellite state would be to presuppose that in the 21st century, the nations of the world are prepared to defy law and logic in recognising not one, not two but three Chinas.

As such, whilst China would never allow foreign aggression against any part of its territory including Hong Kong, China cannot help if Hong Kong starts to be seen as an ageing tiger of yesterday in the eyes of foreign investors. Whilst Lee Kuan Yew left a legacy in his city-state of Singapore which taught future generations the importance of pragmatism and economic evolution, the protesters of Hong Kong have not learned either lesson, nor have they learned properly from the positive world changing Reform and Opening Up of the mainland.

Hong Kong will surely not “fall” to a modern day Napoleon, but part of Hong Kong’s own frenzied population seems intent on sinking Hong Kong’s economic fortunes even more rapidly than today’s economically unimportant museum like city of Venice is literally sinking before the eyes of the world.

通宝推:决不倒戈,桥上,
家园 这是正宗的英国全球政策智库执笔Adam Garrie

的文章,全篇理性分析没有把臭港暴乱跟衰落归咎于内地,而是归咎于臭港沉迷在自己对过去英殖民时代的妄想中而不是适应未来!所以没有未来!

你自己好好看下里面用了多少贬义词形容臭港废青,obscurantist parochialism,absurd,short sighted,non-thinking,反智,地方本位主义,荒谬,短视,不经大脑,而且明确告诉你,想利用暴力把臭港拖入灭亡命运的是臭港的protesters!

少想当然就代表西方舆论,人家带着脑子的,光有屁股在这世界上走不通!

臭港的衰落跟内地没有任何关系,咱就是瞧出殡不嫌殡大!

通宝推:桥上,
家园 做梦,500行政主任对比3千多总数有多少?更何况其中水分

还不小。前几天鼓噪的港铁集体罢工,结果又是流料吹嘘,就是利用假新闻绑架大多数,最后港铁车长通告没这回事。

家园 你没有正面回答问题,请举出你认定的世界媒体的实体名字
家园 川普ID讲的是将来时。先说现在时吧,

川普ID讲的是将来时。先说现在时吧,现在敌人拥护香港闹下去,你是拥护还是反对。

纽约时报

人们问香港能赢吗?我的回答是,只要坚持,他们就不会输。这是一场关于人的价值的抗争,自由、正义与尊严,从这个层面说,香港人民已经赢了。没错,如果他们放弃,那么专制机器将取而代之。但尽管残酷的独裁可能会击败他们,它却永远不会“赢”。心怀理想并付诸行动是人的天性。独裁改变不了这些事实。击败它只是时间问题。

家园 用什么价值观去塑造香港人的未来?

社会形态组成不光是吃喝拉撒的物质生活和资料生产,它还有为所有人类共同追求的思想、政治、文化、艺术等精神生活,这些才是人之构成社会人的灵魂所在。

对此你大陆政权除了让“利“又还能为香港人提供出什么思想产品?回归二十多年来,香港社会除了西方殖民时代所打造的价值体系,这些回归后长大的新生代还能到哪去寻找自己的根?

只知纵容小孩物质金线欲望,却无暇与之有思想交流,生在如此家庭环境下的孩子本就是一种悲哀。

记得内地经济还远为落后的九十年代,窦唯张楚他们的搖滚音乐就能火爆香港红磡体育馆。

作为亚洲流行文化前沿之地,香港年轻人为之折服的是窦唯他们带来的思想共鸣,而现在窦唯成仙、何勇已疯,香港年轻人更是遍地废材。

改开几十年经过物质财富积累阶段后,内陆社会形态终究要过民主自由的资本主义意识形态关。这个历史不会因人的意志为转移,既然你已选定市场经济的发展方式。。

家园 现在你知道为什么英国特朗普能上台了吧

“让英国再次伟大”,呵呵。这些西方内部的大外宣支部,都在被排挤中,你以为这些年“大撒币”是白撒的么。

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