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Posted 27/02/07 at 11:31 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Green Canada from Edmonton, Canada writes: we could have a new saying...Canada will cut GHGs when China becomes a democracy...the timeline is about the same.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:34 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Eric Li from Calgary, Canada writes: mr motoc from Canada: it might be harder for the Canadian Natives to find the differences among us based on WHEN we arrived here than HOW they arrived here.

We are discussing the meaning of a paper and nothing else.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:35 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

X. T. from Waterloo, ON, Canada writes: david sandford from Canada:

For your info, Win Jiabao has no Rolls. All high ranking state officers have to use native products, including their chauffeured vehicles. If you find they are thugs, good luck trying find a word for those in Washington and Ottawa. You may need an Oxford Dictionary.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:40 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

G. A. from Canada writes: It is easy to objectively condemn a statement proclaiming another century of Communist rule in a country with such potential, economic and otherwise. However, it is refreshing to see leaders taking a pragmatic stance to democratization. As we have quickly learned in Iraq and Afghanistan (among countless African and Latin American states), democracy requires the proper infrastructure to flourish, let alone take hold. Democracy, of course, is not simply elections, although much of the world holds the principle as such, quite infallibly. A true, Western embodied 'liberal' democracy requires an independent judiciary, free press, civil liberties, a viable welfare state, free and fair elections, freedom of religion, etc., etc...

If the leaders of China were to proclaim simple 'democracy' in 10 or 20 years - ostensibly meaning elections with some conjured up form of competition - readers might have had a more favourable response. However, when taking the full gamut of democratic ideals into consideration, the prediction of a century is certainly more feasible. We need not see another democratic promise broken any time soon.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:41 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

L Tang from Toronto, Canada writes: Stubborn Ox, I love you last name.

I can not agree more that many people were dead 'unnaturally' during Cultural Revolution ( or Cultural Lost!). The fact is that we don't know the fact.

But I suggest you forget this painful or horrible memory, like most Chinese are doing now. Like why there is baby boom in North America after war? The current Chinese crazy economic boom is in the same situation. The 60's is an unbeatable nightmare to China and her citizens.

But I think the number is not as big as millions, bcz massacre during that period is not heard; also many Chinese learned to shut up to survive quickly when they realize the mouth became dangerous organ.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:42 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Keith Petreman from Ottawa, Canada writes: Watson Jones from United States, I think to have a democracy you have to count all the votes. You can go around all day proclaiming America as a democracy but as long as the media there are controlled by fewer and fewer and as long as the referendums and elections involve systematic fraud and widespread disenfranchisement from the political system, I think it's fair game to question whether or not the US is really still a democracy.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:42 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Y Gong from Thunder Bay, Canada writes: The author of the article has a misunderstanding of the so-called '100 years', which actually counted from the founding of the People's Republic of China in 1949. That means democracy is at least 40 more years away. In my opinion, this is a realistic plan.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:47 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Keith Petreman from Ottawa, Canada writes: mr motoc from Canada writes: All you boys and girls who HATE things like . . . rights . . . freedom . . . due process . . . and the rule of law -- all the favorites of sissy-pants left-wing looney types -- it looks like Communist China is THE country for YOU, for at least 100 years!

You must be so happy. Get on the web; book a one-way flight; you owe it to YOURSELVES.

I agree. Just thought it was worth re-stating.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:49 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Tony Baloney from In a cave west of Hamilton, Canada writes: I think it is absolutely wonderful that the ruling class in China is so concerned with improving the lives of the average Chinese rather than maintaining their own grip on power. I personally think they should hold off democracy for 200 years, to doubly ensure that economic progress is established. After all, look how poor the US has done under democracy.

I repeat, the ruling class in China has absolutely no interest in maintaining power for power's sake and is entirely interested only in the altruistic act of improving the lives of the Chinese population.

Posted 27/02/07 at 11:54 AM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Stubborn Ox from Calgary, Canada writes: Tony Baloney

Yeah that's exactly it, they care about the people.. It's not that the wealth is being heavily concentrated in the hands of a few along the coast while hundreds of millions live in poverty and are murdered by the army if they attempt to launch any kind of complaint or protest..

Even in highly controlled China, the west gets the news of the death squads crushing revolts of poor and desperate peasant farmers in small rural villages.. and don't forget the mobile execution platforms they converted buses into, so it's easier to go from town to town executing dissidents.. google it if you dare.. I'm not making it up..

Posted 27/02/07 at 12:01 PM EST | Alert an Editor | Link to Comment

Mr Fijne from Calgary, Canada writes: Finally leaders who understand that democracy is flawed: just watch Canada the world's best wallet picking people who love to cripple those who bring wealth to them! In a democracy the lowest common denominator rules and that is why the politicians have to go so low to lure the idiots to vote for them on issues they don't understand! Ahh China, a first class communist country versus Canada a second class socialist one masquerading in conservative gears... Flaherty/Layton... In Canada, 10% are paying 50% of the income tax and thus should have 50% of the voting decision! You wanna have more say in the country? Work hard and smart and you'll create more wealth for all, pay more taxes and have more say! Let's go the Chinese way!

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