主题：和平与战争 -- 唵啊吽

first of all, I know my posts are hard to understand, kind of my notes of my own.

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again as a disclaimer, as said before, social science is hard, and I don't really know.

I have been fairly "negative" on TG in almost all my posts, still I would think that, like any political elite of any other countries, TG as china's only social elite(kind of), has been trying to work for the best of Chinese 民族和国家利益, whether they have accomplished that objective is a different discussion;

also, how do you define "Chinese 民族和国家利益" is a total different discussion as well.

what is my logic?

I try the most likely scenario or "most conservative" assumption: that TG is fundamentally not different from US elite, in terms of working for the best 民族和国家利益;

particularly, Chinese nation is such a huge "sample", and to say it is fundamentally different from other major nations, it is just too "risky", in terms of claiming that Chinese elite "这一阶层把自身的利益凌驾在民族和国家利益之上", and there is no other elite in china other than TG, as "sad" as it has been.

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other than that part, I basically agree with your other points in your post, almost all of them;

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because TG and US elite are all working for the best 利益 of 民族和国家 of their own, more than likely they will work out some kind of deals between the two, as opposed to going confrontational, rationality likely dominates;

and fundamentally, I also agree that TG 代表落后生产关系, globally, and TG has to unwind its huge shorting positions against almost the entire world;

It looks like that some part(%?) of TG is going that way, trying to normalize with US led world of capitalism.

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now, a huge part(%?) of TG would disagree with the statement that TGchina "代表落后的生产关系", and almost "majority" of Chinese people would be against that statement, for whatever reasons, most likely because of "the Chinese culture"

and strangely enough, that "Chinese culture" with a "落后的生产关系"=gives Chinese society a strong "度量结构" in our current 广义相对论 type world, vs Europe's lack of any "度量结构" in their world, and US is still holding strong to their largely "working well but much more diverse "度量结构".

that is kind of why I put "度量结构" as my first post in commenting your post.

and as we know, in social science, a nation's "度量结构" is largely the matter of that nation only, and for a nation of 1.5B people, and for whatever reasons (including TG's brainwashing, and most likely Chinese culture), Chinese society can largely agree on an unifying and almost a single 社会经济政治"度量结构", and they largely supports TG as a 中央极权, and that "strange thing" itself is a strong source of "china model"'s super power, which almost killed white's little brain(:).

and that "china model" power still has potential.

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now, from US(and white world) point of view (and it is very hard for them to understand tgchina), TG "china model" is noting but a fundamentally 黄祸 type "落后的生产关系", kind of why US now is containing TGchina, or even trying 政权更替 game if US figures out a way to do it(very difficult)

now, "objectively" speaking, other than "GDP 温度", what tgchina has contributed into humanity's "innovation and growth" system objective?

not much at all.

on the other hand, one could argue that compared to Indian, tgchina have been doing a lot of better economically.

so, how "落后" is tgchina 的生产关系? it is in itself a "social science"

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so, the global human system basically got a huge elephant "Tgchina" into its increasingly crowded house, and it is a challenge for everybody, kind of TGchina as a huge 梯度 popping out inside the system, stressing everybody out, compressing system's 自由度 to the possibly "dangerous" level.

and even "worse", because TG thinks it really 代表 Chinese 民族和国家利益, and majority of Chinese people kind of supports TG, making that challenge even "worse" to the global system.

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and Uncle Sam should feel blessed that TGchina did not grab the golden opportunity of 中华邦联 of 新加坡 and TW, a nightmare for US-centered white world.

and that also tells you that Chinese nation is not an 攻击 type nation/civilization, unlikely to change even in future when tgchina grows even stronger.

and "luckily" for the world, tgchina may have topped out anyway in terms of its "china model" potential.

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and I am glad to know that people like you start discussing topic like this.

and kind of why I posted

changshou: "时空中 度量结构（距离）的定义" here under this topic, borrowing some methodology from the most advanced science of humanity as we know.

and as "great" as GR is in a GR 时空, even a regional 度量结构 is challenging, 引力场量子化 is still a day dream: as a result, we basically don't really know "what is information" and "how information is transmitted" in a GR 时空.

and how about a social GR world of global scale?

much more challenging.

however, "luckily" for the world, the elephant in the room is tgchina, a historically very "善良" nation as we all know.

for that reason alone, I don't see any war risk in the foreseeable future, not at all.

economic war of various kinds are more likely, which as a peaceful "model competition" is a good thing, and in a way, it is really time for Uncle Sam to wake up as well: if nothing else, its own white trash population growth is almost getting out of control, period.