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主题:【求教】美国中产阶级真的这么惨了吗-关于99% -- 田昭明

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                • 家园 俄罗斯平民甚至可以拥有自动武器,

                  留学生甚至有揣着原版AK47(宝贝啊!)去上课的,就为了防光头党

                  但是也没见那个俄罗斯人会随便跟MVD(内务部队,相当于武警)斗气,

                  你要是用AK47跟MVD斗,你以为MVD拿不出几条RPG?RPD?SVD???

                  闹大了,FSB来了,你就不是被几枪打死的爽快死法了

              • 家园 实话实说:30年代和60年代都没有人人持枪反抗的发生

                你看一下30年代大萧条时候的照片,那些人都老老实实的,沿着墙边,排着长队等着领救济粮,就知道和现在这些敲着鼓,占领华尔街的“暴徒”相比,那时候那些百姓是多么优秀的顺民呀。

                而且在所谓愤怒的葡萄的年代,老百姓不是那么容易拥有枪支的,因为美国的枪支管制开始很牛了,所有的武器,不管是小手枪还是大炮,每次交易都要付200美元的tax。1930的200美元呀,要知道,大萧条的华尔街,只要有100美元的现金,你可以立刻换一辆崭新的汽车。

                至于60年代的强拆,被拆的大多数都是忍气吞声的老黑和老墨。当时人权运动还没有开始,老黑还在夹着尾巴做人,哪里有现在这样跋扈,更不要说什么人人持枪反抗了。

                • 家园 查一下复员金军人动乱和一系列的种族暴乱历史

                  War and Inter-War Period: 1914 - 1945

                  Further information: Nadir of American race relations

                  1917: East St. Louis, Illinois

                  1917: Chester, Pennsylvania

                  1917: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

                  1917: Houston Riot (1917)

                  Red Summer of 1919

                  1919: Washington, D.C.

                  1919: Chicago, Illinois

                  1919: Omaha, Nebraska

                  1919: Charleston, South Carolina

                  1919: Longview, Texas

                  1919: Knoxville, Tennessee

                  1919: Elaine, Arkansas

                  1921: Tulsa, Oklahoma

                  1923: Rosewood, Florida (area is now an outgrowth of Cedar Key, Florida)

                  1935: Harlem Race Riot

                  1943: Detroit Race Riot

                  1943: Harlem Race Riot

                  1943: Zoot Suit Riots, Los Angeles, California

                  1944: Agana, Guam

                  [edit] Civil Rights and Black Power Movements Period: 1955 - 1977[edit] 196316th Street Baptist Church bombing; Birmingham, Alabama - September

                  [edit] 1964Rochester 1964 race riot; Rochester, New York - July

                  New York City 1964 riot; New York City, New York - July

                  Philadelphia 1964 race riot; Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - August

                  Jersey City 1964 race riot, August 2–4, Jersey City, New Jersey

                  Paterson 1964 race riot, August 11–13, Paterson, New Jersey

                  Elizabeth 1964 race riot, August 11–13, Elizabeth, New Jersey

                  Chicago 1964 race riot, Dixmoor riot, August 16–17, Chicago, Illinois

                  [edit] 1965Watts Riot; Los Angeles, California - August

                  [edit] 1966Hough Riots; Cleveland, Ohio - July

                  Hunter's Point Riot; San Francisco

                  Division Street Riots; Chicago - June

                  [edit] 19671967 Newark riots; Newark, New Jersey - July

                  12th Street riot; Detroit, Michigan - July

                  1967 Plainfield riots; Plainfield, New Jersey - July

                  Milwaukee riot; Milwaukee, Wisconsin - July 30–31

                  Minneapolis North Side Riots; Minneapolis-Saint Paul, Minnesota - August

                  [edit] 1968Orangeburg massacre; Orangeburg, South Carolina - February

                  125 cities in April and May, in response to the murder of Martin Luther King, Jr. including:

                  Baltimore riot of 1968; Baltimore Maryland

                  1968 Washington, D.C. riots; Washington, D.C.

                  1968 New York City riot; New York City, New York

                  West Side Riots; Chicago, Illinois

                  Louisville riots of 1968; Louisville, Kentucky

                  Hill District MLK riots; Pittsburgh, PA

                  Summit, IL Race Riot at Argo High School September 1968

                  [edit] 1970May 11th Augusta Race Riot; Augusta, Georgia - May

                  Jackson State killings; Jackson, Mississippi - May

                  Asbury Park Riot; Asbury Park, New Jersey - July

                  Chicano Moratorium, an anti Vietnam War protest turned riot in East Los Angeles - August

                  • 家园 我和上面只是在谈特定年代的特定事件:60年代的强拆等

                    如果一条条列下去,你还漏了90年代因为OJ Simpson,老黑几乎把整个LA都给抢的riot呢。

                    这就好比:有人说文革逼死的人太多了,你反驳说:太平天国的造反死的人更多。都是事实,但说的不是同一回事吧。

    • 家园 要批判的看问题

      你的1,3点结论都不准确。美国的中产阶级永远都不会比无产阶级更悲惨。因为美国的无产阶级都是被中产阶级养着的。而整个美国都是被中国人养着的。所以,只要中国没有悲剧,美国从上到下都不会悲剧。

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