主题：认识一霉倒夫受害者 -- 老广
午饭时知道了俺以前所在group的老板的老板上了Madoff的贼船了。全部身家２个米令都投在那里了。现在应该５０多岁了，人整个已经都垮掉了。不仅如此，这位一直在高层中间帮着口碑Madoff。所以不少高层都入了老鼠会。CFO, CIO都投了。多少钱不知道，不过这种老鼠会没有一个米令进不去。所以大家都说这位要准备简历了。
更cool的是，临散前，一个平时挺沉默寡言的老美突然说了一句，those Jews deserve this。当然丫也就当着我们老中老印的面说说。hehe
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什么是Madoff，如何就是贼船？ 玩的是什么把戏？
鲜花伺候
这太过分了，hehe. 不过这次学了一个英文词，ponzi scheme, 还真以为老鼠会是国粹了。另外就是觉得没钱也挺不错的。最后真是佩服犹太人，大义灭亲这种戏码说来就来。牺牲一个，幸福全家这觉悟不是盖的。
至于研究可是没有，不是今天吃饭，我真没关心这个新闻，连看都没看。主要是觉得５００亿美元，太他妈的surreal了。
Charity Run by Senator Lautenberg Is Among Madoff Investor
Madoff’s Investors Had More Than $30 Billion: Table
Access International $1.4 billion Company statement,
Advisors Bloomberg Data
Aozora Bank Ltd. 12.4 billion Company statement
yen ($137
million)
Banco Santander SA 2.33 billion Company statement
euros ($3.1
billion)
Banque Benedict Hentsch $48 million Company statement
& Cie. SA
BBVA 300 mln euros Company Statement
($404 mln)
Benbassat & Cie. $935 million Reuters, citing Le Temps
BNP Paribas SA Up to 350 Company statement
million euros
($478.2 mln)
Boston philanthropist $145 million Boston Globe
Carl Shapiro’s
charitable foundation
Bramdean Alternatives 9.5 percent Company statement
Ltd. of assets
Clal Insurance 3 mln shekels Company statement
($778,800)
CNP Assurances 3 mln euros Company statement
($4.1 million)
Dexia SA 78 million Company statement
euros ($106.9
million)
EIM Group $230 million Reuters, citing Le Temps
Elie Wiesel Foundation Undetermined Wall Street Journal
For Humanity
Fairfield Greenwich $7.5 billion Bloomberg News,
Group Company Statement
Fix Asset Management $400 million Company Statement
Fortis Bank Netherlands 1 bln euros
($1.4 bln)
GMAC LLC Chairman Most of its Wall Street Journal
Jacob Ezra Merkin’s $1.8 billion
Ascot Partners LLC of assets
Groupama 10 mln euros Company Statement
($13.6 mln)
Harel Insurance $14.2 million Company statement
Investments & Financial
Services Ltd.
HSBC Holdings Plc $1 billion Company statement
JEHT Foundation Undetermined; Company Statement
Will close.
Julian J. Levitt $6 million Washington Post
Foundation
Kingate Management Ltd. $3.5 billion Bloomberg News,
Bloomberg Data
Korea Life Insurance Co. $50 million Yonhap News
Korea Teachers Pension $9.1 million Company statement
Leonard Litwin Undetermined Spokesman
Madoff Family Foundation $19 million Washington Post
Man Group Plc $360 million Company statement
Maxam Capital $280 million Wall Street Journal
Management LLC
M&B Capital Partners 137.4 El Mundo newspaper
million euros
($187.9 mln)
Mediobanca $671,000 Company statement
Mirabaud & Cie. A few million Reuters, citing Le Temps
Swiss Francs
Mitsubishi UFJ $11 million Company spokesman
Financial Group Inc.
Mort Zuckerman’s $30 million CNBC Interview
charitable trust
Natixis Up to 450 Company statement
million euros
($614 mln)
Neue Privat Bank $5 Million Bloomberg News
New York Mets Undetermined Company statement
owner Fred Wilpon’s
Sterling Equities Inc.
Nomura Holdings Inc. $302 Million Company statement
Nordea Bank AB 48 mln euros Company statement
($65.6 mln)
Norman Braman, Undetermined Wall Street Journal
Former owner of the
Philadelphia Eagles
Football Team
North Shore-Long Island $5 million Company statement
Jewish Health System
Notz, Stucki & Cie Undetermined Reuters, citing Le Temps
Phoenix Holdings 48 mln shekels Company Statement
($12.42 mln)
Pioneer Alternative Almost all Bloomberg News
Investments of its $280
million of
assets
Robert I. Lappin $8 million Washington Post
Charitable Foundation
Royal Bank of Canada Less than Globe and Mail
C$50 million
($40 million)
Royal Bank of $360 million Company statement
Scotland Group Plc
Reichmuth & Co.’s $330 million Letter to clients
Reichmuth Matterhorn
fund
Societe Generale SA Less than 10 Company statement
million euros
($13.7 mln)
Sumitomo Life 2 billion yen Company spokesman
Insurance Co. ($22 million)
Technion 25 mln shekels Company Statement
($6.5 mln)
Tremont Capital $3.3 billion Bloomberg News
Management
U.S. Senator Frank Undetermined Bergen Record,
Lautenberg’s Bloomberg News
Charitable Foundation
UniCredit SpA 75 mln euros Company statement
($102.5 mln)
Union Bancaire Privee # Less than Company statement
1.26 billion
Swiss francs
($1.08 billion)
Steven Spielberg’s
Wunderkinder Foundation Undetermined Wall Street Journal,
Bloomberg
Yeshiva University Undetermined Washington Post
and statement
Total (approximate) $29.9 billion
老广说说。
我觉得银行inter-bank rate其实已经很低了，降到零又如何？问题是risk premium那么高，公司还是借不到钱。
呵呵
对西方来说。现在金融货币政策没什么作用了，当然一直砸下去最后肯定起作用。这样砸下去，货币总有毛的一天啊。
需求是需要信心刺激的，没信心没需求，没需求负利率也没有用。还是看奥黑的package行不行吧，我觉得是没戏，不过老美容易骗。美国起码十年歇下去了。
不少大银行和基金都钻进了这位纳斯达克前董事会主席的老鼠会圈套：
HSBC投入１０亿美刀
Fortis估计是1４亿，－这个应该是平安被坑了的那个银行吧？
Royal Bank of Scotland投入5.98亿
BNP Paribas投入4.64亿
Man是3.6亿
Nomura投入3.03亿
上面是几个大家熟悉的名字，遭受到更大损失者银行和基金：
－Fairfield Greenwich投入75亿美刀
－Banco Santanders是30.73亿
－Tremont Capital Management估计投入了30亿美刀
－Kingate投入25亿
－Bank Medici投入21亿
全部名单：
这老鼠会真是绝对是顶级的，看挖仓的Madoff（NASDAQ董事会主席和监管会governor、在数个文化和慈善机构任职）和那些前赴后继的业界大拿们。。。
你老板不会是Palm Beach Country Club的会员吧，据说Madoff专门在这种有钱人出没的地方拉客，或者直接面向犹太人社区。
后来人的本金用来支付前面人的利息。前面人都是有头有脸有地位的，没有一百万还不让你进呢。有账本在那里，之前收多少还出来多少就得了，还有人能赖了不成。账算清了，大家的损失不见得比大多数股民损失的多。
那些钱分分钟被界定为非法手段所得，被迫呕回去！
他估计参加老鼠会有年了......前几年赚了多少？
华尔街的精英也玩乡下老太婆玩的凑份子把戏？
老鼠会这种东西,过几年就会批着新的外衣出现,这次爱莲版主也被这个卖刀夫忽悠了,虽然没损失钱,没错,这个老卖搞的就是正宗的老鼠会,一点技术含量都没有的老鼠会,不过外衣是蛮漂亮的,比上一个胖子要精到,没有采取涸泽而渔高息揽储的办法,而是采取了稳健的货币政策,每个月一个点的回报,这让整套骗局看起来不象是老鼠会,更绝的是这家伙公开说,现在在金融界已经不可能发生犯罪的行为,没有人能够长期犯罪不被发现,给他的入狱做了一个最好的注脚.