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家园 这么说来又是汉人无理取闹了?

无辜杀害少数民族,这岂非是说世维会出了定量不准确,定性是准确的

家园 杀人者当死无错,怨在有罪者没有尽罚而已

先花一下兄台仔细的法律解释。

如果证据确实确凿,两名汉族主犯的判刑并无太大不妥之处,以兄台之识,应该能看出,实际问题是出在人心不服整个事件处理的不平衡上。

此事上政府的正式宣传口径朝三暮四,漏洞百出,本就已经信誉扫地,最后又发明出“被追逐”一词,却对责任者不作任何处理(或处理了不作任何报道)。请问兄台,以您之常识,真的相信那名维族(又用了可笑的“疏附县”的代称,好象以为这样一掩饰读者就看不懂了)男子仅仅是在无目的或恶作剧式的“追逐”汉族女工吗?还是现行法律没有相关“未遂”的条文?而又请问,以您之常识,若发生同类事件,但男女民族身份颠倒一下,引发如此严重后果的那名男子会如此轻易便逃脱法律制裁吗?

人心都有秤,公不公平自有拈量。据我所知,韶关事件真正是冰冻三尺非一日之寒,其实远不是仅仅厂内不同员工群体斗殴那么简单。直接的死者很可能确实是完全无辜的老实人(所以再说一次,此次量刑本身并无不当),但不客气的说一句,作为一个群体,那批维族员工遭到当地社会近乎一致的排斥和敌视,以及政府在此事被骂到体无完肤,完全是究由自取。

通宝推:人云亦云,秋末冬初,真狼,驿路梨花,
家园 说得对!在古代,这个最先惹事的是要被杀头的.

现在即使可以不杀头,徒刑也不判吗?

那以后人家还敢惹事,反正不参与斗殴就啥事没有.

家园 75的维人杀人罪是要死刑的,难道不是吗?

您的智商看来更高了。

如果按照您的论点,不抓上街游行的汉人是正确的,因为韶关没有抓维族流氓。

您思维不是一般的混乱啊。

家园 希特勒发动二战是在美国华尔街的资助之下

甚至其早期排犹活动还受到了犹太国际银行家的渠道与金融支持(大部分都是德裔犹太银行家)。二战结束,美国顺利走出金融危机后罗斯福新政的磨合期,犹太银行家彻底击败德国银行家完全掌控华尔街,希特勒从上台开始就一直是个被背后各势力操控的木偶,可悲的是他一直以为自己已经摆脱了这种控制,二战德国怎么可能不败

家园 这名犯罪嫌疑人不过是协助他人防卫过当

对于一个法律工作者来说,法律保护的是守法的人

对于一个制定法律的人来说,法律要保护善良的人

家园 靠 一边死的是维族 一边死的是汉族 能一样吗
家园 Do Not Mislead

Wanted to ignore as not interested in going personal like what I saw. But on second thought got to respond for the sake that people interested in Xinjiang subject are not being misled, that Han people are capable of rational and civil conversation.

1. There can be many reasons for a native Chinese speaker to type in English other than pretending to be cool. No need to go through them but - why such inferior complexity?

2. "Chinglish" is good. Again, why inferior complexity? One thing many Han people can learn from America today is that you can talk Chinglish into full respect from native English speakers at your workplace as well as neighborhood, as what matters in a civil society is what you are and what you mean.

3. You can read aloud - do you read stories to your children before bed? Well, it's a trivial matter. But make sure to be right technically, even on trivial things, before jumping your gun out of deep rooted inferior complexity.

家园 对不起,您又忽视了判决的前因后果

那就是两次上街了。

您要论证法律的严肃性,您更应该从之前没有游行压力的时候说起,比如以前wz打hr甚至杀人是真么判的。这点很多新疆的网友都是有体会的。

家园 俺已经说了两少一宽应该废除,您是看不懂中文还是怎么的

从现在开始改,一步一步来。

不过以您的智商大概看不懂俺说的。

家园 “被追逐”当时一听就觉得很搞笑很无耻

没什么好感,到那里都是问题,大把的石油,连炮弹都要进口,现代人类科学文明的进步上找的到任何贡献吗。。 看看张鲜亮的心灵史 西省有事考,大概就剩下恐怖了。 xxx化,没有任何前途

家园 有死刑得,但死了那么多只判了两个。

那个RUL 是个 S B

最恶劣得以纯案 他不列出来,烧死6个小姑娘都没判死刑。

没有3.14得瞎判,哪有7.5得惨剧

家园 对不起,您说的这个是新华社报道的吗?

什么一步一步改,中央要废除,

中央废除文件的文件,您看到了?没废除之前,请您注意中央文件的严肃性。

家园 Got to Know the Scope of Law

Agreed from a legal perspective it's alright. But it is a political decision when to engage law.

Over the past thirty years, law was rarely engaged against criminals from certain minorities over the crimes they committed towards Han people. Law was always engaged, and over engaged, over Han criminals under the same circumstances. Anyone?

7/5 and 7/6 of 2009 in Urumqi. It is no longer isolated criminal acts. That thousands of men, women and children slain in the street simply because their ethnic appearance, perpetuated by men, women and children of another ethnic group, is ethnic cleansing and crime against humanity.

Where was law on 7/5 and 7/6 in the street of Urumqi?

I wouldn't have a problem if law were enforced throughout. In fact, that's my ideal.

Today's America is a law ruling society. Because of that ethnic cleansing doesn't happen inside its owner border. When it does happen due to external forces on 9/11, America declared war. America declared 9/11 perpetuators and their accomplices enemy combatants, not criminals protected by American legal system.

It is not law, stupid. It is the ruling class.

家园 对没有参与斗殴的公民进行殴打致伤致死叫做防卫过当?

有才

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