主题：迷茫的《中国通史》 -- 种植园土

具体是那几个，大家都知道。

“你不信我的教，我就灭了你”。这种思维太恐怖了。。。再先进的文明，遇到这种思维，也没办法啊。

据说奥斯曼帝国为了多收税,禁止巴尔干半岛的异教徒改宗伊斯兰教

中华民族走到今天不是靠的幸运，靠的是遇弱不逞强，遇强不服输的平和心态。

中华民族的特点，按照自己的生活，吸收一切对自己有用的，不依靠所谓的制度，只求普及教育开启民智，让所有人都成圣人，人人持有仁义礼智信，温良恭俭让美德的大同世界。

儒释道三家都已化为涓涓细流融入日常生活。

其他宗教教不改不变没有大用，火候一到舆论宣传一开，一揭老底，像FLG一样完蛋。

只要坚定地坚持宗教信仰自由未来就没有问题。

包括信教自由和传教自由。尤其是包括不信教的自由。尤其是各民族或

各家庭出身，都有不信教的自由。

伊斯兰教的问题是强制家庭成员信教。强制本民族其他成员信教和以暴

力手段强迫他人遵守教规。从伊斯兰家庭出身就强制信伊斯兰教，一旦

信伊斯兰教就不许退出。

这种强迫家庭成员信伊斯兰教的行为，是严重的违法犯罪，应该给予刑

事处罚。以暴力强迫其他人遵守教规的，包括强迫回民遵守教规，以胁

迫和绑架罪，判处有期徒刑。

只要严格尊重每个人，包括回民的宗教信仰自由，不信仰的自由，则未

来无忧。

• 谁转移视线？？？你有问题吧？我这是回益者三友的贴

那可是来自老夫子春秋中最著名的郑伯克段于鄢，先让他们随便折腾，折腾到头了该造反了或者该被大多数人灭掉了，然后就以叛乱罪行一次性全数搞定，最后平静很长时间。不过倒霉的就是那些在最初的绥靖过程中被残害的小百姓。

我们能管的了老祖宗干嘛么？

楼主能保证每个人的老祖宗历史上都没干过坏事啊？

这话忒绝对了。

再说了，我没觉得我干嘛了，还好我不是YSL的人，只是民族成分上写了个回字

我就已经觉得这贴我看的一肚子火了。。。。

完全有蓄意民族矛盾的倾向

否则中华文明必彻底灭绝！！！ 因为中华文明同化力再强也无法将他们文化中的某种东西消化。

--yi yu zhong di!

many Han people are too naive. They do not read Koran, words of Mohammed when he conquered the Arabic Penisula.

Han does not understand what other people are thinking.

here.

DOMESTIC Chinese need to have a global view on the rise of Muslim Fundamentalism. There is nothing wrong with Islam. But inside this religious practice, there are different sects and some sects are dangerously dominant.

Lots of global terrorists have links to Wahhabi sect, which is a Sunni muslim sect from Saudi Arabia. The saudi king family formed alliance with Wahhabi in early 20th century and unified tribes to form Saudi Arabia. There was agreement between Wahhabi people and the king: king family controls secular power and Wahhabism would be the national ideology. Wahhabism is a much more extreme Islam compared with other sects. It has power to declare anybody as infidels and have the power to kill fellow muslims not in their sects. That sect DID do that before.

Just google for yourself.

Unfortunately, Saudi's huge oil reserve not only made the king family super rich, but also the Wahhabi sect. And Wahhabi used the financial resources to finance its global expansion--as well as the spread of its extreme views. Malaysia and Indonedia are just two examples. And its missionaries are also expanding in former USSR mid-asia nations (those -stan nations).

Keep in mind: without financial resources, new ideology will not be spread quickly. People change affiliation out of faith, but money often speeds up such process. Without the patronage of rich greeks and Roman emperor Constantine I., Christianity would not take over most of the western world so quickly.

Do not you guys feel weird: how come Malays become so violent in the last 20 years? It was not the case under the British rule when moderate Islam was practised.

For 南渝霜华, I do recommend you to google the term "Dar Al-Islam", its implication and read the instructions of Mohammad from Koran. If you live outside China, watch video "farewell to Israel" and read books about "Muslim Brotherhood"

http://www.farewellisrael.com/

The economic and global-status-related frustration is attracting more and more muslims away from the moderate camp to the fundamentalism camp in various African nation, European nation, as well as Asian nations.

Do not be so simple-minded. 种植园土 worked LONG time outside China and some of his observations are consistent with my concerns too.

What China's gov. should do is to BLOCK FURTHER SPREAD OF FUNDAMENTALISM Islam into China, reduce radicalization from Wahhabism, encourage the cooperation of chinese domestic muslim leaders of the moderate sect; thus REVERSE THE penetration of fundamentalism. Key: ensure peaceful co-existence between believers and non-believers.

Here I want to criticize HAN people's arrogance: if you want to manage minority groups well, HAN leaders should learn local language, their religious belief and their ways of thinking. Han is too materialistic and simple-mindedly believe that more financial support to IMPROVE EVERYONE'S life is every muslim wants. Han people lack Briton's skill in empire building.

Keep in mind: one British officer called Lawrence single-handed managed the uprising of Arabic Penisula and destroyed Turkish rule in Palestine, Syria and Lebannon, in WW I. Watch the movie Lawrence of Arabia then one will see. In the American/British camp, they have tons of talents who understand Uiger language/culture and local tension. If right time comes, they will be releashed to make China the second (broken) Turkish empire.

Let me GIVE YOU MY PREDICTION IN A STRAIGHTFORWARD WAY: a religious war shall happen for sure, in the next 30 years, either in Asia or in Europe. If I were you, I will hope that it never happens in my homeland China.

Fundamentalism is not something we can approach with try and error.

Many promising Malaysian muslim youth attend university abroad，but vast majority of them choose Islam related specializations. As a result, they barely learn any professional skills to find a decent life, speak English in an awkward manner (much shameful for a commonwealth resident), and most importantly, they end up with hatred as a fundamentalist.

I withnessed such tragedies again and again.When I saw the pictures that Chinese kids were dressed in the fashion of Malaysia Muslim, I knew something terriably wrong was happening. And the almighty Chinese government did nothing to stop it.

Within 15 years, they will become suicide bombers and bring about atrocity to their neighbours and total annialation of their own kind.

但他们不仅在中国这样并且在其他国家也这样的。。。也没见那个国家政府能拿出什么好法子彻底制止这种现象。

到底有哪些问题，到底该怎么做。。。我不认为中国政府和有关人士就都不如那个LZ种植园土更清楚。。。

其实这种话题在网上一遍遍的翻出来讨论，并起不了啥好的作用的。。。

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这只是表面，而其实质就是要改变中国人精神上的祖宗，让全体中国人转向他们跪拜。

唐鸢:分赃不均导致分裂而非统一。送去一本书就想控制一个国家的思想和财富不是上帝或各种"主"的意思,而是那些创造和解释上帝或各种"主"的团体和人的千年美梦,可惜千百年来各种一神教都在中国没有完全成功.不能完全控制,就退而求其次－－分裂中国.东突,八国联军就是这么想的.不过那些创造和解释和绑架上帝或各种"主"的团体由于分赃不均导致中世纪欧洲和阿拉伯分裂,以及无休止的各种“圣战”和仅仅为一本书的荒唐杀戮，不信各种一神教的中国反而大致保持统一.绝妙的讽刺!

　　　假如上帝或各种"主"真的存在,我想他老人家一定不会保佑这些打着他的旗号为少数团体谋利而不惜牺牲其他国家的统一和绝大多数人民幸福的人的行径。他也许反而会保佑我们的包容而又统一、博大的中国。人们信仰神本来就是为了绝大多数人的幸福和利益而不仅仅是为了那些绑架、创造和解释上帝或各种"主"的团体和人的私利。

以天主教为例，天主教从传入中国一直到民国时期都反对中国信徒“祭祖”和“祭孔”，认定这就是偶像崇拜。康熙在接见教廷特使时，当面斥责教皇所为乃是“立于大门之外，论人屋内之事”，并说“中国供牌位，乃是人思念父母的养育之恩。譬如幼雏物类，其母若殒，亦必呼号数日者，思其亲也。况人为万物之灵，自然物动于中，形于外也……圣人以五常百行之大道，君臣父子之大伦，垂教万世，使人亲上死长之大道，此至圣先师之所应尊应敬也。”因而下令禁止传教。爱教胜过爱国是各种一神教的特点,所以中国打击东突,并且对梵蒂冈深怀戒心.我们不歧视这些中国教徒，我们甚至很想帮助他们，但那几乎是徒劳，正如你所所说世界其他国家尚且无能为力。

所以尽管有历史恩怨但TG对所有多神教民族都是信任的，甚至就连看起来雷声大的藏独，小胡也不是很担心，谈笑间分化瓦解搞定（而七五小胡再也笑不出了），因为西藏文化从骨子里与中华文明不冲突，是相通的。汉族与其他多神教民族之间的争吵更是主要是历史感情方面的打嘴架而已，TG都懒得理。中华文明是包容的，不像某些宗教自诩的宽容。言不如行。

其他我已经说过太多了不再说了唐鸢:古代中国的最大幸运是：

• 当然要帮助小巴，因为巴比印弱太多，而印扩张野心太明显
• 当几种一神教的那些“经”都恢复其“神话小说”的本来面目

很多东西，河里大部分人心里也不是不知道，不清楚的。。。

等有人鼓吹那些教时，再去反驳了。。。

但我认为在没人鼓吹这些东西时，就没必要一遍遍反复拿出来“炒冷饭”了（比方LZ）。。。

其实，无论如何，还是大力推广发扬中华文明，加大中国人对自己文明的自信才是最重要的。当我们有自信，那么不管是其他什么教啊，神啊的，都难以攻破的。

这就像面对各种各样的细菌病菌，一个人要提高自身的免疫能力。。。