主题：争吵的时代中的中国或者中帝国 -- 葡萄
我是天天晚上守着看葡萄老师的帖子。
送花成功，可取消。有效送花赞扬。感谢：作者获得通宝一枚。
参数变化，作者，声望:1；铢钱:16。你，乐善:1；铢钱:-1。本帖花:1
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中产阶级或者说小康之家本身是存在的，但是不是应该有欧美当前这么大的数量，这就未必了。
确实有大批的欧美普通人的竞争力，根本无法维持他们目前的生活水准。多出来的这些人是为人创造出来的社会稳定砝码，用后即弃。
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A native of New York, New York, Wohlstetter earned degrees from the City College of New York and Columbia University in the 1930s. During the 1940s, he worked with the War Production Board, at Atlas Aircraft Products Company and, after World War II, at the General Panel Corporation of California.
From 1951 to 1963, he served first as a consultant and later as a senior policy analyst for the RAND Corporation, and maintained his affiliation with RAND for years afterward. At RAND, he researched how to posture and operate U.S. strategic nuclear forces to deter plausible forms of Soviet nuclear-armed aggression in way that was credible, cost-effective and controllable.[2]
In the 1960s and 1970s, he expanded the scope of his research to include alliance policy and nuclear nonproliferation,[3] ballistic missile defense,[4] innovation in military technology,[5] peacetime military competitions,[6] and military potential and economics of civil nuclear energy.[7]
In the 1980s, Wohlstetter frequently criticized proponents of mutual assured destruction who supported targeting of nuclear weapons on civilians and cities instead over enemy combatants and military forces.[8]
Wohlstetter and his wife, Roberta Morgan Wohlstetter, also counseled both Democratic and Republican administrations, including advisers to President John F. Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis in 1962.[9] They received the Presidential Medal of Freedom from Ronald Reagan on November 7, 1985.
During his long career, Wohlstetter also taught at UCLA and the University of California, Berkeley, in the early 1960s. From 1964 to 1980, he taught in the political science department of the University of Chicago, and chaired the dissertation committees of Paul Wolfowitz and Zalmay Khalilzad. He is often credited with influencing a number of prominent members of the neoconservative movement,[10] including Richard Perle (who, as a teenager, dated Wohlstetter's daughter Joan).[11]
Death
Wohlstetter died in Los Angeles in 1997 at the age of 83.[/URL]
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全部人类都是植物，靠阳光就可以生存生产，除了他们自己。这是最划算的营生了，也是最合适人类贪婪本性的构架，其实资本就是人性的外化。
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看是垄断资产阶级的帝国还是中产阶级的祖国更符合未来的经济基础的需要
个人看，如果新能源革命迟迟无法到来，那么中产阶级存续的根基要胜过垄断阶级存续的根基。
富人如果不能带来进步，最终还是无法服众的。
最终还是无法服众的。”所以..,无论怎么样，都是大多数人不得不接受的，哎~
随着全球化和中国步入工业国家行列，比原来全部工业国家人口还多的13亿人也可以进行工业化的生产，原来西方社会的工人阶级和中产阶级，将被迫与中国的工人阶级和中产阶级看齐，而中国的上层阶级，会与西方的上层阶级看齐，最后形成全球化后的全部工业国的人口形成的新的金字塔结构。
可以认为，随着金融资本的更快增殖，以金融资本为主要收入来源的上层阶级的财富提升速度会比其它阶级快的多，因此上次阶级的地位相对上升和其它阶级的相对下降，是肯定可以预期的。
但是，除非能重建上层阶级的单一阶层统治，依靠选举和财产税制度，还是能保持一定的公平。
只要金权无法持续有效的推动社会前进，那么威权施展的空间就来了。
虽然大多数情况下，政客都受金钱的控制，但不意味着金钱能战胜权力。就像多数人只是金钱的奴仆，做不了金钱的主人一样。
对峙。
（我想指的，造成你的误解不好意思）是统治阶级（也就是说包括资本和权力）。而“更明白”是指TA们对权力，资本，技术（某种层面的）的控制能力，或者说对于整个结构的洞察力，在整个结构系统中拥有最高的权限。当然这个统治阶级是可以流动的，而作为统治阶段本身是必然存在的（基于人性，目前的人类现状）。
看Kerugman的《美國怎麼了》比你解釋得要清楚得多。
對USA經濟的意義就是：
1，中产阶级讓USA的消費能力大幅度增加；導致今天經濟不景氣的致命傷可以說就是中產階級的被消滅。
2，中產階級讓社會矛盾有了巨大的緩衝空間。
3，中產階級從意識形態說是USA成功模式的最佳商標。現在USA價值觀念面臨破產和他們中產階級的被消滅是因果相承的。
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