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销无根据、不科学的抹黑文章，并处理相关责任人。
文章在这里，已被许多人在文后的评论中充分批驳。http://www.nature.com/news/why-great-olympic-feats-raise-suspicions-1.11109
网络请愿在这里：http://www.change.org/petitions/nature-the-science-journal-apologize-to-ye-shiwen-retract-the-racist-article-discipline-the-editor#
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It is a shame to see Nature, which nearly all scientists, including myself, regard as the one of the most prestigious and influential physical science magazines to publish a thinly-veiled biased article like this. Granted, this is not a peer-reviewed scientific article and did not go through the scrutiny of picking referees. But to serve as a channel for the general populous to be in touch with and appreciate sciences, the authors and editors should at least present the readers with facts within proper context, which they failed to do blatantly. First, to compare a player's performance increase, the author used Ye's 400m IM time and her performance at the World championship 2011, which are 4 :28.43 and 4:35.15 respectively, and reached the conclusion that she has got an "anomalous" increase by ~7 sec (6.72 sec). In fact she's previous personal best was 4:33.79 at Asian Games 20101. This leads to a 5.38 sec increase. In a sport event that 0.1 sec can be the difference between the gold and silver medal, I see no reason that 5.38 sec can be treated as 7 sec. Second, as previously pointed out, Ye is only 16 years old and her body is still developing. Bettering oneself by 5 sec over two years may seem impossible for an adult swimmer, but certainly happens among youngsters. Ian Thorpe's interview revealed that his 400m freestyle time increased 5 sec between the age of 15 and 162. For regular people including the author it may be hard to imagine what an elite swimmer can achieve as he or she matures, combined with scientific and persistent training. But jumping to a conclusion that it is "anomalous" based on "Oh that's so tough I can not imagine it is real" is hardly sound. Third, to compare Ryan Lochte's last 50m to Ye's is a textbook example of what we call to cherry pick your data. Yes, Lochte is slower than Ye in the last 50m, but (as pointed out by Zhenxi) Lochte has a huge lead in the first 300m so that he chose to not push himself too hard to conserve energy for latter events (whether this conforms to the Olympic spirit and the "use one's best efforts to win a match" requirement that the BWF has recently invoked to disqualify four badminton pairs is another topic worth discussing , probably not in Nature, though). On the contrary, Ye is trailing behind after the first 300m and relies on freestyle, which she has an edge, to win the game. Failing to mention this strategic difference, as well as the fact that Lochte is 23.25 sec faster (4:05.18) over all than Ye creates the illusion that a woman swam faster than the best man in the same sport, which sounds impossible. Put aside the gender argument, I believe this is still a leading question that implies the reader that something fishy is going on. Fourth, another example of cherry picking. In the same event there are four male swimmers that swam faster than both Lochter (29.10 sec)3 and Ye ( 28.93 sec)4: Hagino (28.52 sec), Phelps (28.44 sec), Horihata (27.87 sec) and Fraser-Holmes (28.35 sec). As it turns out if we are just talking about the last 50m in a 400m IM, Lochter would not have been the example to use if I were the author. What kind of scientific rigorousness that author is trying to demonstrate here? Is it logical that if Lochter is the champion, we should assume he leads in every split? That would be a terrible way to teach the public how science works. Fifth, which is the one I oppose the most. The author quotes Tucks and implies that a drug test can not rule out the possibility of doping. Is this kind of agnosticism what Nature really wants to educate its readers? By that standard I estimate that at least half of the peer-reviewed scientific papers in Nature should be retracted. How can one convince the editors and reviewers that their proposed theory works for every possible case? One cannot. One chooses to apply the theory to typical examples and demonstrate that in (hopefully) all scenarios considered the theory works to a degree, and that should warrant a publication, until a counterexample is found. I could imagine that the author has a skeptical mind which is critical to scientific thinking, but that would be put into better use if he can write a real peer-reviewed paper that discusses the odds of Ye doping on a highly advanced non-detectable drug that the Chinese has come up within the last 4 years (they obviously did not have it in Beijing, otherwise why not to use it and woo the audience at home?), based on data and rational derivation. This paper, however, can be interpreted as saying that all athletes are doping, and the authorities are just not good enough to catch them. That may be true, logically, but definitely will not make the case if there is ever a hearing by FINA to determine if Ye has doped. To ask the question that if it is possible to false negative in a drug test looks like a rigged question to me. Of course it is, other than the drug that the test is not designed to detect, anyone who has taken Quantum 101 will tell you that everything is probabilistic in nature, and there is a probability for the drug in an athlete's system to tunnel out right at the moment of the test. A slight change as it may be, should we disregard all test results because of it? Let s be practical and reasonable. And accept WADA is competent at its job. Her urine sample is stored for 8 years following the contest for future testing as technology advances. Innocent until proven guilty, shouldn't it be? Sixth, and the last point I would like to make, is that the out-of- competition drug test is already in effect, which the author failed to mention. Per WADA president ;s press release5, drug testing for olympians began at least 6 months prior to the opening of the London Olympic. Furthermore there are 107 athletes who are banned from this Olympic for doping. That maybe the reason that & #162;…everyone will pass at the Olympic games. Hardly anyone fails in competition testing&# 194;? Because those who did dope are already sanctioned? The author is free to suggest that a player could have doped beforehand and fool the test at the game, but this possibility certainly is ruled out for Ye. Over all, even though the author did not falsify any data, he did ( intentionally or not) cherry pick data that is far too suggestive to be fair and unbiased, in my view. If you want to cover a story of a suspected doping from a scientific point of view, be impartial and provide all the facts for the reader to judge. You are entitled to your interpretation of the facts, and the expression thereof in your piece, explicitly or otherwise , but only showing evidences which favor your argument is hardly good science or journalism. Such an article in a journal like Nature is not an appropriate example of how scientific research or report should be done. 1http://www.fina.org/H2O/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=1241 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ETPUKlOwV4 3http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/men-400m-individual-medley/phase=swm054100/index.html 4http://www.london2012.com/swimming/event/women-400m-individual-medley/phase=sww054100/index.html 5http://playtrue.wada-ama.org/news/wada-presidents-addresses-london-2012-press-conference/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=wada-presidents-addresses-london-2012-press-conference
中美都有。您再试试？
这个回复还是放在第一位置的。另外，真的没有想到Nature这个科学界公认的顶级杂志竟然会发表这样一篇严重缺乏科学素养而充满主观偏见的News，让Nature在我心中的形象大打折扣。特别是其后的编辑意见更是一副趾高气昂的嘴脸，一点没有公正的态度。想想当年大清衰落的时候肯定也有人是这样不愿意面对现实的。
继续顶。
记得青藏铁路刚修通的时候，也跟风发文章质疑藏羚羊能否穿过铁路。别的媒体质疑也就罢了，Nature这种科学杂志，竟然全然不提青藏公路跟铁路平行－－就是看一眼google map的事，是穿过一天只有几趟火车的铁路容易还是穿过汽车成天川流不息的公路容易，有五岁的智商就能想明白啊
不是PKU出身的，不做biology的也可以参加。
Group: PKU Bio-Net
Subject: [Announcement] Protest against Nature (the magazine) calls for co-signer
Dear PKU Bioers,
As you might have known, an article was published in Nature a few days ago, titled “Why great Olympic feats raise suspicions”. It is "completely groundless, full of political bias, and extremely disturbing".
There has been heated discussion on this issue among Chinese scholar/professional communities. One of our PKU Bioers, Liming Wang (Bio01'; now at UC Berkeley) has initiated a formal protest against Nature. While he is composing a final letter, a first draft is available here on mitbbs:
http://bit.ly/OOmXRs
As this announcement is writing, we "have collected 117 co-signers from 9 countries, including students, postdocs, professors from academia as well as engineers and lawyers from industry, and more is coming". If you are interested in joining this protest, please send your name / title / affiliation / email to Liming Wang:
Below is some excerpt from his final draft proposal:
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Nature is considered one of the most prestigious scientific journals in the world; numerous scientists, including many of the protestors, chose Nature to publish their best work. Indeed, many of the protestors have co-authored papers published in Nature. However, Mr. Callaway’s article, scientifically misleading and full of racial and political bias, was more suitable for tabloids. It has tainted Nature’s reputation in the scientific community, and among the general audience.
We urge Nature to retract this article and publicly apologize to Ye and all athletes in the first time. Until then, we will not:
1> submit papers to Nature;
2> review papers for Nature;
3> advertise in Nature for job openings and products;
4> purchase services and products advertised in Nature;
5> subscribe to Nature for individual or lab uses
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More about Liming Wang:
http://mcb.berkeley.edu/faculty/bmb/wangl.html
貌似2010年才加入Nature的，不过作为科技杂志的记者，确实不应该。而且这事没有编辑的授意才怪了
收新的评论。希望众河友继续广而告之，征集更多签名，并尽可能多的参与相关的活动，比如楼下的UC Berkeley 教授发起的。多谢了！
最近Nature转变态度，不再维持“这是一篇探讨科学问题的文章，没什么不妥，你们都神经过敏”的立场，已经向叶诗文和广大读者道歉， 并解释删除某些回复是“技术故障”，把楼下提到的宾大化学系Lai Jiang的有力回击放在文章的下面，和道歉在一起。 至此我们的斗争取得初步胜利。
网络请愿仍在继续，现在要求处理作者和一开始蛮横的编辑。 签名已有89个！