主题:[请教]老电影<<闻香识女人>>中的三观 -- AleaJactaEst
首先,校长惹人讨厌,被下了套。搞恶作剧的学生当然也不对。但是校长进一步的行动是威胁无辜的查理举报这些学生。如果查理不举报就要被开除。查理和这些学生讲哥们义气,不愿意举报。
这里的重点是学生是否应当在自己的前途受到威胁的情况下出卖朋友。很显然,校长用查理的前途作威胁是过分的。深想一步,如果查理这次因为校长的威胁而作证,那么下次会不会因为受到威胁而做伪证呢?或者为了某些利益而出卖大家呢?作证要出于正义,要出于自愿。被胁迫作证,无论是不是伪证,都是不可取的。这里就是美国主流价值观一贯鼓吹的程序正义。
佛兰克中校从这点出发,认为学校不应该教育孩子出卖朋友,尤其不应该把孩子教育成“告密者”(snitch)。如果这么干了,表面上看是培养孩子“领导能力”,实际上是鼓励孩子们从小为了利益出卖朋友。这和学校标榜精神背道而驰。
下面是弗兰克中校的辩护词脚本,可以很清楚的看出这个脉络。
Headmaster Trask: Mr. Simms, you are a cover-up artist and you are a liar.
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: But not a snitch.
Headmaster Trask: Excuse me?
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: No, I don’t think I will.
Headmaster Trask: Mr. Slade.
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: This is such a crock of shit.
Headmaster Trask: Please watch your language, Mr. Slade. You are in the Baird School not a barracks. Mr. Simms, I will give you one final opportunity to speak up.
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: Mr. Simms doesn’t want it. He doesn’t need to labeled: “Still worthy of being a ‘Baird Man.'” What the hell is that? What is your motto here? “Boys, inform on your classmates, save your hide” — anything short of that we’re gonna burn you at the stake? Well, gentlemen, when the shit hits the fan some guys run and some guys stay. Here’s Charlie facing the fire; and there’s George hidin’ in big Daddy’s pocket. And what are you doin’? You’re gonna reward George and destroy Charlie.
Headmaster Trask: Are you finished, Mr. Slade?
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: No, I’m just gettin’ warmed up. I don’t know who went to this place, William Howard Taft, William Jennings Bryan, William Tell — whoever. Their spirit is dead — if they ever had one — it’s gone. You’re building a rat ship here. A vessel for sea going snitches. And if you think your preparing these minnows for manhood you better think again. Because I say you are killing the very spirit this institution proclaims it instills! What a sham. What kind of a show are you guys puttin’ on here today. I mean, the only class in this act is sittin’ next to me. And I’m here to tell ya this boy’s soul is intact. It’s non-negotiable. You know how I know? Someone here — and I’m not gonna say who — offered to buy it. Only Charlie here wasn’t sellin’.
Headmaster Trask: Sir, you are out of order!
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: Outta order? I’ll show you outta order! You don’t know what outta order is, Mr. Trask! I’d show you but I’m too old; I’m too tired; I’m too fucking blind. If I were the man I was five years ago I’d take a Flame-Thrower to this place! Outta order. Who the hell you think you’re talking to? I’ve been around, you know? There was a time I could see. And I have seen boys like these, younger than these, their arms torn out, their legs ripped off. But there isn’t nothing like the sight of an amputated spirit; there is no prosthetic for that. You think you’re merely sendin’ this splendid foot-soldier back home to Oregon with his tail between his legs, but I say you are executing his Soul!! And why?! Because he’s not a Baird man! Baird men, ya hurt this boy, you’re going to be Baird Bums, the lot of ya. And Harry, Jimmy, Trent, wherever you are out there, Fuck You, too!
Headmaster Trask: Stand down, Mr. Slade!
Lieutenant Colonel Frank Slade: I’m not finished! As I came in here, I heard those words, “cradle of leadership.” Well, when the bow breaks, the cradle will fall. And it has fallen here; it has fallen. Makers of men; creators of leaders; be careful what kind of leaders you’re producing here. I don’t know if Charlie’s silence here today is right or wrong.
I’m not a judge or jury. But I can tell you this: he won’t sell anybody out to buy his future!! And that, my friends, is called integrity! That’s called courage! Now that’s the stuff leaders should be made of. Now I have come to the crossroads in my life. I always knew what the right path was. Without exception, I knew. But I never took it. You know why? It was too damn hard. Now here’s Charlie. He’s come to the crossroads. He has chosen a path. It’s the right path. It’s a path made of principle — that leads to character. Let him continue on his journey.
You hold this boy’s future in your hands, committee. It’s a valuable future. Believe me. Don’t destroy it! Protect it. Embrace it. It’s gonna make ya proud one day — I promise you.
这个三观对不对?各人有各人的看法。中国文化中类似查理的表现是《水浒》中的哥们义气。但还是有所不同。这里更加强调的是不因强权而放弃自己的原则,更不因强权而出卖自己的尊严。尤其是当校长小题大作,以强凌弱的时候。
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🙂这个片子的小金人奖 镐梓 字69 2020-08-03 22:13:50
🙂强调的是不因强权而放弃自己的原则
🙂我觉得有初级文革的思想:造反有理、革命无罪 6 七天 字605 2020-08-03 13:27:18
🙂总结一下,我的困惑可能出于这个案件的性质问题。 1 AleaJactaEst 字1080 2020-08-03 13:13:22
🙂这是一个好问题,对西西河的价值观很有借鉴意义 20 甘丹 字2629 2020-08-03 05:53:26
🙂这次遗憾又不能宝推 燕人 字66 2020-08-03 07:23:15