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      • 家园 举手发言是有奖励滴!

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        果然好文:)

      • 家园 老茅作为学经济的,抛开各种假设谈经济理论,只能归结为忽悠

        老茅抛开假设不谈,给大众讲大学一年级的经济原理,讲完美市场,完美竞争,是逗大家玩呢,还是别有用心,为他那个天则研究所挣的噱头。

        老茅和宋缺德其实是一样的,都是靠一张大嘴巴吃娱乐饭的,如果说区别,一是他们是在不同道上混的,二是论娱乐化,他的嘴比宋的嘴少跑了五十步。

        • 家园 这个是绝大多数这类抛头露面的经济学家的通病,害人不浅。

          他们没有办法给普通大众具体的解释特定的经济理论成立的条件,或者自己的能力不足以把这些条件具体化,这些条件会因为不同的情况而变化,要有具体的数据才行。老茅这些人没这个能力和精力去做这些事情,就剩了一张大嘴,开口就成了胡说八道了。他的经济学专业训练我个人感觉也不是很严格。我一直把他当成宋缺德一样的人物对待的,不能说他错了,但是都是些没边没沿的说法。老了,不能要求太多。

          才发现宋*祖*德在西西河被禁了,哈哈。老铁有趣。

      • 家园 很想知道经济学理论是如何支持没厕所公寓的理论的
      • 家园 鹦鹉会说供求,也是经济学家

        经济学就那么回事

        • 家园 Some dogs can do 1+1=2,

          so the dog is a mathematician.You're absolutely right? Math is that simple. Mathematicians are not so great at all.

          What do you do for living? Let's assume you're a computer technician, so if a dog can punch the keyboard then he is a computer technician just like you en! Computer is just that simple! en.

          so according to your logic,you=computer technician,and dog = a computer technician en, is that right?

          • 家园 well

            i can`t understand what you write. fot me english is a dreadful one

            but let me tell you that i read it in frist page from an Economic text book

            • well
              家园 很抱歉,昨天在学校用学校的机子没中文输入所以用了英文。

              我也是开玩笑的,那句著名的话:“在网上没人知道你是条狗。”

              还麻烦兄台不要想歪了。

      • 家园 正因为不懂所以上来请教大家,而不是想在这里吵架。

        我并没有怀疑他的经济学家的身份,而是想在这里多学习一点自己不理解的东西。锦侯先生似乎有些曲解本人的意思,流于偏激,似乎是经济学出身,看来是挺茅派。本人持中立态度,不带任何看法的在这里学习而已!!!

        • 家园 wrong, I dont support him or

          any economists who ever tried, tries or trying to explain the economics to society. Because mathematicians won't explain their jobs to the society, physicians don't either, and philosophers don't, chemists don't, computer technicians don't, painters don't, why do economists do that? It is almost guaranteed that people without economic training won't understand, but they do believe they do understand. Even Strongly believe they have the same understanding as the professional economists, their confidence are so strong, strong enough to accusing the professionals. Lol. what bunch of jerks? don't get me wrong, the jerks I mean the economists. why do they do that? why? i don't know?

          As I said I have never read 茅's theory or his entire paper completely, why? because he or his theories don't deserve my attention, I've got something better to read, thus I don't support him. It would be hard to support a person without basic understanding of his work. But I don't deny him either because it would be even harder, at least to me, to blame a person without basic understanding of his work. does what I said above make any senses to you so far?

          流于偏激,how did you figure this from what I said? I have read it again and again, can't feel you at all. So instead thanks me to inspire you, you accuse me for something I didn't do? It is hard to conduct a meaningful and pleasant discussion at cchere now.

          And by the way, the best way to learn is not here but school.

          I just stated the truth, the truth is most people don't know economics but dare to question the best economists, and even doubt their qualification. isn't it odd?

          But not one ordinary person dares to question even the worst mathematician's qualification, isn't it odd?

          The worst mathematician can scream to all the ordinary people:"you are not qualified to talk math with me." And most people would think he is qualified to say so,at some level at least. it is odd, isn't it?

          But even the best economist would be screamed by the ordinary people:"you are not qualified to be an economist. your job could be done by a parrot or a dog."

          isn't it odd?

          don't take it too serious, I am not blaming you but inspire you.

          just curious, when was your last time asked the same question about 陈景润's study,e.g. 1+1=2,if you ever did ask.

          I said:" what the hell? ",when I 1st time heard about this,"why does anybody pay him to do things like that? "

          but I never dare to ask the question like yours:"does his study make any senses at all, mathematically?"

          because I was so afraid that people would think less of me.

          and the last thing, to me: the journey of the explore the truth or acquire the knowledge, is always bitter and sour. I can't walking without wiping.

      • 家园 学科大串门这事最近好像很时兴

        书画界小品演的最好,小品界炒菜最佳,厨艺行当玩台球最好,台球界搞收藏最厉害……

        我觉得吧,茅是故意的。

      • 家园 好吧,说得有道理...

        花一下...

    • 家园 人总是会变的!!

      人总是会变的!!

    • 家园 09@E5@B9@B4@E7@AC@AC@E4@B8@8

      04年,我当时还是傻傻的那种,整天也民主自由的。毛的天则经济研究所要出一本经济学杂志,就叫天则,我当时汇了120元过去,订了不知是一年还是半年的,后来给我来了一封信,说杂志因众所周知的原因出不了,问我是要退钱,还是给我另一份替换的杂志,我当时想应该支持这帮民主独立自由人事,就没让退钱。但这事就这么过去了,我连杂志的毛都没看到。

      于是,对天则,对这帮人就没太多好印象了。

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