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      • 家园 说的很好

        这也是最后搞出一个四不像的方案的原因。

        法国不能出钱,不是不想出,而是真的不能出,一出钱,国家债务再上涨,3A立刻出问题。

        法国又提出让欧洲央行担保,但央行出手等于让德国买单,德国不愿意。

        法国只好找中国,德国又很不情愿的样子。

        总之现在做好做歹都看德国了。央行印钱也是德国买单,财政转移支付也是德国买单,找外援德国还是要买单。德国当然可以选择退出欧元区,但带来的严重后果还是要它来承担。

      • 家园 估计最终要赖皮

        希腊总理说了,救援方案政府要公投。就目前这架势,可能学冰岛,赖皮了事。

        • 家园 现在赖了,下一步一定是退出欧元区。

          因为没办法继续借钱,现有的财政支持不下去,又不能自己印钱,国内工资、福利、退休金什么的都发不下去了。

          只有退出欧元区,就可以赖账、自己印钱大幅贬值、顺便大幅降低福利开支,才能维持财政平衡。

          差不多是注定的命运,只看拖多长时间了。

      • 家园 花!是不是不会买美债,只会到期不再续买
    • 家园 日本和俄罗斯出手了,购买欧元债券....
      • 家园 那点数量,还不够塞牙缝的

        EFSF的杠杆化操作,就是他只出2500亿(本来一共4400亿,已经用了一半),剩下的从市场上筹集7500亿到10000亿。

        原先法国的想法是让欧洲央行担保,万一筹不到钱央行垫着。而且有央行在背后,大家也愿意凑份子。但德国不肯。

        现在这个方案,上哪里找那么多钱呢?

        • 家园 刚刚在网上看到奥地利新闻社报道

          随胡主席访问奥地利的部长表示,中国重视和欧盟的战略伙伴关系,而且现在全世界是同船合命,中国将会大力支持欧洲度过危机....

    • 家园 墙街报评论EFSF

      如果希腊国债的CDS可以“被”不触发,为什么EFSF将来就会赔你钱?

      If Greek CDS Don’t Trigger, Why Would EFSF?

      Investors who bought insurance against a possible Greek default are sweating right now.

      It appears that the “voluntary” 50% haircut on the value of outstanding Greek debt is being structured in such a way as not to trigger CDS protection. The committee that decides is meeting to discuss whether or not the terms of its conditions for a payout have been triggered.

      My colleague Matt Phillips, writing a post for MarketBeat on wsj.com Thursday, didn’t hold out much hope for the contracts to be triggered.

      If the CDS are not triggered it will add insult to injury to those who bought protection. That’s because, as an insurance contract struck between banks, the CDS usually last over certain long periods, say five years of premium payments for five years of protection. Anyone buying CDS on Greek debt earlier this year will then be on the hook for another four years of payments.

      Now, all other things being equal, that might not be a total catastrophe, say people who deal with these contracts. That’s because banks use CDS as a balance-sheet hedge to offset writedowns they take on sovereign debt.

      This, though, presumes those CDS contracts retain their value—say because the next time Greece defaults it won’t be “voluntary.”

      This seems unlikely.

      As Citigroup’s uber-economist Willem Buiter notes, the Greek default passes the duck test.

      It looks like a default, sounds like a default and lays eggs. The writedowns would be “voluntary” only in the sense you “voluntarily” hand your wallet over to the guy holding a gun to your head.

      Indeed, the ratings agency Fitch said Friday it would treat the Greek plan as a default.

      So if these CDS fail to trigger because of political shenanigans and legalese, it raises the question of why anyone would ever want to hold CDS on sovereign debt anyway.

      What this does is make it painfully clear what a nonsense CDS—essentially insurance policies against bond defaults—are in the context of developed-market debt, as the Macro Man bloggers point out.

      In countries with their own printing presses, like the U.S., the U.K. and Japan, it is very hard to see how a default is possible. True central banks can refuse to buy government debt, but central bankers can always—always—be replaced by politicians.

      But now we know even countries that do not have control of their own monetary policy will not be allowed to default in a legalistic sense of the word. The question now must be whether people who bought CDS protection on Greek debt will continue having to pay the premiums on this protection even though they know they’ve been stitched up.

      But if CDS on developed-market debt are found to be worthless, then all those balance-sheet hedges—Buiter estimates some $74 billion gross outstanding on Greek debt alone—suddenly become worthless.

      Which means banks will have yet new holes to fill in their capital.

      That, though, isn’t the end of it.

      If insurance written by market participants for market participants is invalidated by sovereigns, what is the value of insurance contracts being offered by the sovereigns themselves?

      Here I’m referring to the European Financial Stability Facility, which is now being touted as a super insurer of European sovereign debt (albeit maybe only the first 20%). Once again, Buiter makes a critical point: not allowing existing CDS to trigger reduces the credibility of the EFSF protection.

      I’d go even further. The whole euro exercise has raised serious credibility issues. Governments used all sorts of accounting fudges, off-balance-sheet accounting and derivatives to meet single-currency membership criteria that had already been stretched to breaking point. Greece consistently misled on the state of its finances.

      France and Germany broke the Maastricht treaty obligation to keep their budget deficits below 3% of GDP even before the 2008 financial crisis.

      The latest maneuverings just confirm that Eurocrats make used-car salesmen look like the apotheosis of probity, prudence and honesty.

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