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家园 说的很对,花

第三条路对中国来说确实是不可行的。正如你说的2000多年前的陈胜、吴广喊出的那句口号就注定了我们这个民族永远也走不了印度那条路。葡萄大哥之前已经说过了,选第三条路对我们来说无非就是周期率再现,我们将在去工业化->改朝换代->初级工业化大发展->去工业化->....这样的怪圈中无限循环,裹足不前,永远也不要想上升到工业化高级阶段,民族的复兴就彻底成为一朵浮云。

家园 恩,现阶段家庭是“钱神论”的主要基础

中国要想从钱神论的漩涡里走出来,必须要让家庭这一单元找到别的粘合剂,而不是象现在这样越来越依赖财产。说老实话,靠房子等钱财因素结合的家庭,迟散不如早散。现在离婚率这么高,很多其实是天性的回归,人终究还是需要有点追求的。勉强组合的家庭给了太多人逃避现实的借口,遇事不出头,不敢谈正义,只能想利益,这使得社会的忍耐力畸形变大,人的内心也越来越阴暗,这与中国传统的“忍”有极大的区别。

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家园 不知以你看,这黄金的事靠谱吗?

《911背景 世界金融系统控制权的争夺战》

Although a decade of research has proven a high level cabal at the top of the Western power structure was behind the 911 terror attacks, few realize the attack was an esoteric battle in a war for control of the global financial system.

经过十年的研究已经可以证实911恐怖袭击是由操纵西方政权体系的黑暗势力幕后策划的. 这些事情的背后实际上是一场鲜为人知世界金融系统控制权的争夺战.

Fewer still realize the 311 nuclear tsunami attack against Japan was also part of this battle. However, a critical mass of military, law-enforcement, banking and other officials has identified and is about to arrest the culprits behind these and other attacks.

更加鲜为人知的是 3月11日核爆引发的日本海啸亦是这场争夺战的一部分. 无论如何, 已经有一定数量的军方,执法,金融界以及其他领域的领导官员被确认是幕后策划以上及更多袭击的罪犯,他们将会被逮捕.

The search for the ultimate culprits led to something known as the global collateral accounts and a high level group of conspirators that illegally took them over. These accounts are backed by the pooled assets of many of the world’s governments and were meant to be used to finance peaceful development. Instead, they were mostly misspent on war by a group of misguided oligarchs concentrated in the financial, military, oil and (to a lesser extent) pharmaceutical industries.

在找寻最终 头目的过程中, 一些名为全球抵押帐户(global collateral accounts)被发现,这些帐户被一伙拥有高控制权的幕后集团非法控制住. 这些帐户的资产实际上是由世界各国政府的汇集资产所抵押,原本用于全球的和平事业建设. 但是却被那一伙独裁集团滥用在金融,军事,石油,以及医药工业上并不断去制造战争.

According to a US intelligence group that has been on this case for some time, the top cabalists include George Bushes Jr.&Sr, Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, Queen Elizabeth, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Senator J. Rockefeller, Paul Wolfowitz, Frank Carlucci, Donald Rumsfeld, Tony Blair and the Pope. Of course there were many thousands of working below them or else above them in the shadows who were in on the scheme. The intelligence and police agencies of the world have now obtained the codes for the global collateral accounts and can trace in detail who has been using these funds, and for what purpose, ever since they were hijacked in the 1950’s.

根据已经在长时间调查这些事件的美国情报组的信息. 这些集团的首脑包括: 大小布什(George Bushes Jr.&Sr), Henry (Heinz) Kissinger, 伊丽莎白女王, 荷兰女王贝娅特丽克丝(Beatrix), Senator J. Rockefeller, Paul Wolfowitz, Frank Carlucci, Donald Rumsfeld(美国前国防部长), 布莱尔(Tony Blair)以及大主教. 当然还有许多他们的部下以及在它们之上的成员. 各国调查这些事件的情报组和执法机构已经获得全球抵押帐户的进一步资料,可以追溯到1950被劫持后谁是用过这些资金以及用途.The main plot line, for those of readers who still do not have the big picture, goes back to the Bretton Woods agreement of 1944. At that time England, France and the US were supposed to run the global financial system for a 50-year period ending in 1994. However, in the 1950’s it became clear these countries were not going to keep their promises of Marshal Plans to develop Asia and Africa. Instead they wanted to finance a dialectical fake “cold war” between the Soviets and the “Western World,” in order to benefit the military, oil and related industries.

以下是事情的背景. 回到1944的布雷顿森林协定. 当时协定英法美将主持世界金融系统50年结束于1994年. 但在50年代这些国家开始表明他们不会执行所协定的马歇尔计划去帮助发展亚洲和非洲. 换之,他们策划挑起对苏联发起对整个西方世界的冷战,去使军事,石油以及有关工业得益.

When U.S. President John F. Kennedy agreed with the 77-nation non-aligned group to create US treasury dollars to finance the development of the third world and a trip to the moon, he was killed. Over the coming decades other non-aligned leaders were also killed, hounded out of power or intimidated into silence.

当美国前总统约翰肯尼迪与77国不结盟国家集团创建美国国债美元,以资助第三世界的发展和一次月球旅行时,他被杀害了。在未来几十年里,不结盟的其他领导人不是被杀害,就是被逼下台,或者受到恐吓而陷入沉默。The cold war was wound down and the Soviet Union was dismantled in the run up to the end of the US/French/British Bretton Woods financial mandates. However, the esoteric group at the top of the financial system could not agree on what was to come next.

之后冷战逐渐降温,苏联解体,布雷顿森林协定的英法美主权将结束. 然而在背后操纵的这个金融系统的幕后组织并不同意原来的协定.

The Chinese and their non-aligned allies around the world rightly argued that their turn had come. Furthermore, they were armed with multi-trillion dollar certificates of various sorts given to them by the Western Powers.

中国以及其他非盟约国在争取恢复他们的主权.并且,他们拥有西方列强给与他们的数万亿美元的各式各样的武装凭证。In one example, in 1938 7 US warships took vast amounts of Chinese gold to the US in order to keep it out of Japanese hands. In exchange the Chinese were given Treasury bonds that expired in 60-years or 1998. When that time came, the Chinese owners asked for their gold back but the owners of the Federal Reserve Board refused. The Feds were sued at the International Court of Justice in the Hague and lost.

[color=blue]举一个例子,1938年美国 军舰从中国将大量黄金运往美国,以防止其落入日本手中。作为交换,中国得到了为期60年(或1998年到期)的美国国债债券。当那个时候到来时,中国想要 回当时的黄金,但却被美联储所有者拒绝了。之后,美联储在海牙(Hague)的国际法院被起诉,但是控诉以失败告终。[color]

The owners of the Fed were supposed to hand back the first shipment of gold on September 12th, 2001. As those of us who are not brainwashed understand, the Feds gave the world the “finger,” on September 11, 2001 and instead embarked on a vast new military build-up intended to replace the cold war.

美联储所有者本应在2001年9月12号返还当时运走的第一批黄金。跟我们这些头脑清醒的人所了解的一样,美联储在2001年9月11日这天向世界"竖起了中指",并且开始着手开始一场全新的大型军力提升以取代冷战。The problem with this fake war on terror is that it required the rest of the world to continue financing the US military industrial complex. That was predicated on the complex being able to maintain control over oil, the lifeblood of the 20th century economy.

这个假反恐战争的问题是,它需要世界各地继续资助美国军工复合体。这是建立在军工复合体能够保持对石油的控制的基础上的,而石油是20世纪经济的命脉。When Putin kicked the cabalists out of Russia, suddenly the cabal’s control over oil, and thus their stranglehold over much of the world’s economy, began to collapse.

当普京把一些黑暗势力成员清除出俄国. 削弱他们对石油控制以及对大部分世界经济的束缚,,他们对世界经济的控制瞬间开始崩溃.The battle has now raged on for a decade. The 911 attack on the US was followed up by the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan aimed at stealing oil and obtaining illegal drug money.

这场战役已持续十年。在911恐怖袭击案之后,美国又进攻伊拉克和阿富汗,企图窃取石油和获得非法毒品交易。However, the entire plan began to crumble after 2006 when the Chinese began to stop buying US Treasury certificates. The cabal tried to counter this by jacking up food and oil prices. When that failed and a counterattack known as the “Lehman Shock” took place, they started sucking up to China and trying to bribe top Chinese officials with promises of a global Chinese dictatorship (in partnership with the cabal). This was seen in the news as US President Obama going to China in 2009 and offering a “G2.”

然而,当2006年中国开始 停止购买美国国债凭证时,整个阴谋计划开始瓦解。犯罪团伙企图通过抬高食品及石油价格来进行反击。当企图失败,并且发生了"雷曼事件"的反击事件之后,他 们就开始巴结中国,试图贿赂中国高官,并承诺中国取得(与他们合作之下的)世界统治权。而这一事实在美国总统奥巴马2009年访问中国并提出"G2"概念 时就有所体现。More action took place in June of 2009 when two Japanese carrying $134.5 billion of various bonds were seized in Italy and had their bonds taken. US military and law enforcement types followed the trail to an organization known as the OITC and a Cambodian royal family member by the name of R.C. Dam who theoretical was the legal signator to the global collateral accounts. From there the trail led to cabal members located at the very top of the Western power structure.2009年6月两名挈带 1345亿不同种类债券的日本人在意大利被发现并逮捕,并且将其债券没收,随后便引出了更多的行动。美国军方以及执法机构顺着线索查到了OITC(国际财 政控制司),以及一位柬埔寨皇室成员R.C.Dam,他在理论上讲是全球抵押账户的法定签署人。从那里的线索得知,阴谋策划者处在西方权力结构的最顶层。Fearing arrest or more, a menagerie of top members of the Western Who’s Who popped out of the woodwork trying to cut deals and offering secrets.由于担心被逮捕或更糟,一群西方名人录顶层人员突然冒出来要断绝交易并且提供秘密内情。

Until this mess can be sorted out, a freeze has been put out at the very highest levels of the global financial system. This is what is ultimately behind the recent financial turmoil seen around the world. Because of the incredibly sensitive nature of the situation, a blanket of secrecy has been put in place until this mess can be sorted out.全球金融系统开始在很大程度上冻结,直到这烂摊子被清理干净。这就是最近世界范围内金融混乱背后的最终真相。由于情况极易受影响,保密措施已落实到位,直到这烂摊子被清理干净。The best intelligence available says that many cabal members will be put in jail while many others, who are judged to have sincerely worked with the greater good in mind, will be allowed to stay free and stay rich.

概括来说有许多效力黑暗势力的成员会被监禁,亦有很多其他的有真心为大众利益着想的成员,可以继续享有自由及财富.There will also be some sort of announcements to the global public at large about what has been going on. Humanity will then enter uncharted waters.

真相会被对全世界人们宣布与大揭露.人类将会进入未知的水域

居然有两个收藏的,花却一朵没有,情何以堪啊!

家园 记得北宋真宗年后

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家园 这段古说的深刻。

究竟是王安石还是张居正,拭目以待。

家园 可以这样类比吗

现在的时代是汉武亲政后,窦太后没死那一段。

可以这样类比吗?

现在的时代是威廉二世继位后,俾斯麦没下野那一段。

家园 000

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家园 三条实际都是死路

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家园 是啊,那有木有活路呢?
家园 有的

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通宝推:杨微粒,二十年后,97年的鱼,思行路人,范进中举,江山如此多娇,
有的
家园 旗已经自己砍了,依靠力量就是一帮带路党
有的
家园 他们确实也是智慧得一比

人, 最擅长对付同类. 一个异类的中国, 他们尝试了百多年也没能消灭或彻底奴役, 那么, 就让(把)中国(被)自己变成他们那样, 这里他们的经验和认识远比殖民时代更丰富. 这个源于分裂的欧洲大陆的历史.

然而, 不少人确实在认同这样一种情况的发生, 即使其中一些人并没有意识到最后的结果, 而另一些人显然已近建立好了自认为可靠的后路.

有的
家园 这条出路是什么?急等下文

在西西河这么久,看了无数文章,看了你这个主题的几篇文章之后,觉得即使前面所有文章都没看,只看这几篇就已经值得了。孔子曰,大哉斯问,中国的历史出路在哪里,就是一个“大哉”之问。西西河美文无数,谈到中国如何走出历史的重围,只有葡萄写得这么清晰。中国其实已经被困千年了,至今还在老路上徘徊。八百年前,王安石变法未成,宋人计议未定,金人兵已过河,今天中国再不能错失良机了。

不过让我猜的话,葡萄说的这个“有人”,是不是照片挂在天安门城楼上的那位?隋唐之后,唯一给出中国新的组织方案并且取得实效的,只有此人,而且这个方案,本来是共产主义诸先贤,为后工业后资本主义社会谋划的,理论上比当代资本主义,还要优化。取法乎上,仅得其中,不用过人之策,必将受制于人。狭路相逢勇者胜,中国要想绝处逢生,怕是只有这华山一条路了。

妥协的尽头是灭亡。

家园 弱弱地问一下,国内市场不是很大吗?

市场问题可以解决不少了吧?通过淘汰落后产能,节能减排实,循环利用可以一定程度解决原料问题吧?产业升级不就是让科学家工程师还有重点大学毕业生寻找科技突破口吗?我们虽然慢,不过赶个三五年再有几项突破,发达国家还会卡这么紧吗?

这些是俺的主观意愿,想法简单了些,希望大牛批评指正.

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家园 知行合一是伟大的系统观,但我所知的仅四字:学以致用

中国要从独立自主这一基本出发点走出西方霸权构筑的重重壁垒,我们必须要有拿的出手的和他们从政治、制度、法律、科学技术乃至文化全面竞争的一整套体系。

这就是实力,到了这种层面,只有实力说话是可行滴,没有“政治、制度、法律、科学技术乃至文化全面竞争的一整套体系”,说神马或神马谋略都是没有用的。

“中国人没有时间等儒家自己想明白了再跟随”。伟大的变革,只有实践先摸索出来,才有理伦家总结出经验。

“向死求生”,为生存,必须赤果果,恤淋淋呀;请大家抛弃幻想,但不要畏缩,“我们的同志在困难的时候,要看到成绩,要看到光明,要提高我们的勇气”。

这条出路,不久前有人走过并指出了明确的方向。除了太祖,更有何人?

至于我等P民们么,就学以致用吧,争取把自已做好,把自家做好,把自己本职工作做好,把小单位、小团体做好。毕竟“治国、平天下”是以“修身、齐家”为基础滴。

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