主题:【原创】【讨论】耶鲁女博士被美帝警察乱枪射杀 -- 孟词宗
这两天铺天盖地的都是俄乌战争新闻,但还是有一条海华相关新闻短暂占据了头条。
事件录像:Critical Incident Video - Little Italy
《圣地亚哥联合论坛报》当地时间3月11日报道,美国加州圣地亚哥治安官办公室当天公布了一段3月3日的执法视频,当地警方在执行法院驱逐令时,与作为屋主的47岁的华裔女子李艳(音译:Yan Li)发生冲突。李艳在对峙过程中手持菜刀刺伤警察,现场警察连开数枪将其击毙。
当地一位民权律师观看录像后表示,该女子袭击了执法人员,警察枪击是合法的。但警察在选择枪击前的执法过程应该被批评,“这是冲突不必要升级导致警察合法枪击的一个典型例子。”
从视频看,冲突的直接起因是警察给 Yan Li 送收回房舍通知书(在加州,这个通知书并不是让其立刻走人,根据情况有三天到六十天的缓冲期),Yan Li 怀疑其身份并与之口角。当时 Yan Li 手中拿了一把平头菜刀(据网上说正在做饭),结果警察立马掏枪要其放下菜刀。对峙一阵后,Yan Li 扔掉通知书,把门关掉。
按照一般情况,事情到此就结束了。但警察不依不饶,在 Yan Li 退回屋子并关闭房门后,居然向警局呼叫支援,并说 “She is Barricaded ”(蹲点拘捕)。结果来了一堆警察(14名警员)。
警察冲入屋中后先用橡皮子弹(Bean Bag)向她射击,但似乎没什么效果。Yan Li 拿了一把尖头菜刀向外跑,在门口捅了挡路的警犬和警察。于是遭到警察乱枪射击,身中十多枪,当场被射杀。
网上信息:
Johnny G 2d POST FROM NEXTDOOR:
https://nextdoor.com/p/yNLbJ5hnYrB-?utm_source=share&extras=MTAwMTA2NTA=
Ms. Yan Li was a graduate of Yale University in New Haven, Connecticut, with a Doctorate in Biostatistics. She worked years at Pharmaceutical and Biotech companies. It is so sad. Please watch the movie a "Beautiful Mind" to understand the struggles an American mathematician John Nash, a Nobel Laureate in Economics, had with the same mental issues that Yan Li battled with in her life. She was a beautiful mind and her son Derrick grieves for her while at his studies at UC, Berkeley.
Prayers for Yan Li, she was killed at Acqua Vista and lived in Unit 503. Her mental illness was difficult for her to manage and she tried and tried but never got the help she needed from the HOA or others. I spoke to the Sheriffs before they killed her and I said that force is not the only answer. Please wait for a Psychologist but they chose to go in without dialog. I am so sad because she did not need to die yesterday. Her son at UC Berkeley is grieving for her and can't understand why no one at the HOA called him before the eviction.
Yan Li 是耶鲁大学博士,专业是生物统计。儿子在读加大伯克利分校。她住的这个区是在圣地亚哥的 Little Italy 区。是不错的旅游/住宅区。离开海湾步行只要十分钟。区里类似她的 Condo 市场价格在70万-80万美元。
这个新闻还有另一个转折。Yan Li 之所以被驱逐是因为她似乎欠了物业费。于是居民物业委员会(Home Owner Association) 决定把她的房子卖了抵债。前面说过,区里类似她的 Condo 市场价格在70万-80万美元。但是物业把她的房子只卖了 3万美元的低价(从原文中看,Yan Li 当初付了30万买房)。物业委员会曾经开会否决了强制卖掉她的房子。据物业委员会的财务说,在否决决定作出后,物业委员会又突然在他缺席的情况下紧急开会决定卖掉她的房子。
下面是原文:
Q: Do we know why Ms. Li was being evicted? That is not a rapid process.
A:The HOA sold a lien for HOA dues to a Vulture Investor, Home Expo Financial, Inc and the Seabreeze Management and the HOA just wanted her gone so the Sheriff was called and told that she was threatening the Staff at Seabreeze. I tried to stop them and had a plan to help her but they held an illegal emergency meeting without notifying me the Treasurer. We voted to not do this 24 hours earlier.(edited)
Q: So, you’re a voting member of the HOA that voted against this action, but they did so regardless of the vote?
A: I was Treasurer and voting member. A vote was held to not sell it and the the HOA Lawyer and Seabreeze manager convinced the HOA president to call an emergency meeting, violation of By Laws without notice to me a voting member. They voted to sell Lien for $32,000. To Vulture Investor. I protested that it was an illegal meeting and they ratified their bad actions. 😓(edited)
----- Nextdoor needs an angry emoji. This sounds very illegal and should be considered a reason for what led up to her being viciously killed. Where was a person with training in mental illnesses? Not being implemented yet? The City has a hand in what went wrong as well.(edited) ------- They sent numerous Pert teams to our building for one tenant we had. Makes me wonder as well. ---------- I heard about this & believe that other action could have been taken with someone with mental illness & who was being forced out of her home. Why couldn''''t a stun gun have been used? Just sad. ------ Two female Sheriff Deputies had TAZERS but the Sheriff in charged called in for SDPD Canine Unit. Ms Li was terrified of all dogs. She had kitchen knife and lunged at the Canine officer and wounded him and then the bullets from guns flew out of control. So Sad. I asked the Lead Guy to wait for the PSYCHIATRIC EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM (PERT) with a Psychologist, but they did not wait.(edited) ----------- sounds like they were pretty determined to get her out of the unit by all means possible…this is so tragic and unnecessary. Another life lost for a profit motive… ----------- This should never have been handled this way. At all.
---------- I was on the HOA Board and I tried to stop the other Board members from selling Yan Li''''s lien to a Vulture Investor who is due to steal $300,000 of Yan Li''''s equity she paid in to her condo. The 4 male members of the HOA did this in an emergency meeting without me being notified. I told them to reverse the action and they would not. I spoke to the Sheriff Deputies and the female Deputies tried to allow me to help but their leader got angry with me trying to help. He said I needed to back up. I said please don''''t kill her and wait for the PER Team. He chose to use force after I told him that force was not the only answer.
Everyone did not do what they could.. The HOA did not provide the Sheriff Deputies with the emergency contact information. The HOA and Seabreeze Managment did not help. They deleted her emergency contact information. They sold the property out from under Yan Li and did not attempt to get help from local mental health professionals. I did but I was not allowed to have any information about her even when I was on the Board. No one did all they could.
I offered to pay that versus selling it to a Vulture Investor to steal her $300,000 equity while she was sick. I was on the Board and the Treasurer of the HOA and the 4 other male members held an illegal meeting in violation of the ByLaws to sell it to the Vulture Investor. Would you want this to happen to your Mother or Sister?
I was on the Board and the Treasurer at the time and we voted to not sell the lien and the next day the President Daniel Torres called an emergency meeting. That next day meeting, they did not invite me or reach me, which was illegal. I asked them to reverse their action and they refused and ratified the previous illegal meeting actions. I protested and they retaliated against me. I tired to save her life and they wanted some un-holy deal that the HOA attorney brought to them. I saw it as illegal. Hence their efforts to retaliate against me. --------
所以这是“谋财害命”?
类似华人被美帝警察打死并不是第一次。例如 2009 年在旧金山就发生过 旧金山华人为何遭警射杀
只不过这次事件中的华人学历更高,收入貌似也更多,社会地位也更高。
然并卵,美帝警察照打不误。
这让我想起几年前的“徐纯合事件”。当时写了个帖子徐纯和事件与母女在派出所“发飙”,说“徐纯和事件是个悲剧。警察或许并没有故意杀他的意图。但是这个例子是不能推广的。否则我们将来就要时时生活在被警察“一枪击毙”的阴影中了。毕竟坐地铁,坐公交,坐火车的大多都是屌丝,只不过我们这些屌丝没沦落到徐纯和那个底层世界而已。”
当时很多“高华”们,尤其是在爱吱声的一些“高华”们觉得自己绝对不是屌丝,也不会沦落为屌丝,于是对徐纯合破口大骂,认为他死有余辜。同时还举出美国的例子来说哦警察只要受到威胁就可以开枪杀人。那么这些高华们最好现在再想一想,是不是还要支持警察动不动把人一枪击毙。
一叹。
本帖一共被 2 帖 引用 (帖内工具实现)
可怜的女人,如果身边有个朋友,拉上一把,就不会出现这种悲剧。
那个 HOA 里给她说话并否决卖房的那个财务好像和她关系还不错。
网上查了下,貌似美国这种谋夺财产的方式还是个产业。一般针对独居的老人。利用老人记忆力差,流动资金少,骗取老人的财产,往往老人不过拖欠了水电物业费就失去财产,被赶出家门。而且手段特别恶劣。就像这个案子里,Yan Li 有30万美元的净值(Equity),HOA 却故意只卖3万2。而且明明已经投票否决了卖房的提案,甚至当财务提出愿意为 Yan Li 垫付拖欠的物业费,那些人仍然要把 Yan Li 的公寓卖掉。这 TMD 得有多大仇才非得搞的人家破人亡。
当然,在我们看来丧尽天良的这种操作,对于这些勾结奸商的物业来说只是日常罢了。
遗憾,可惜。
龙眼曾经拥有过CONDO 物业,不是高层公寓而是CONDO镇屋,但对物业公司的巧取豪夺是很有体会的。人家都是干什么都按标准和规范,请专业人士干活,明码标价,让你非专业人士说不出什么,而物业费每年都涨,从十年前的每月400多元,到十年后的每月700多元而且外加很多特殊项目:SPECIAL ASSESSMENT ,今天修阳台,明天修车库,后天修地下室,大后天修台阶,每次几千元不等,而且房子越老越管理费贵,所以后来忍痛卖掉了。
搞不清为什么Li Yan会欠了HOA$31928物业费,确实太高了一些,这是欠的钱,那一年要交多少管理费和特殊费用,真不知道有多少?她不交应该是认为不合理吧,但这里不是中国,没有公司会白干活的。
32,000美元出售的是债务留置权,不是房子本身。留置权,是指债权人因合法手段占有债务人的财物,在由此产生的债权未得到清偿以前留置该项财物并在超过一定期限仍未得到清偿时依法变卖留置财物,从价款中优先受偿的权利。当然房子如果拍卖,那么价格肯定会远低于市价,但不至于只有3万元。
那个警察来送通知书,但‘Yan Li 当着警察面扔掉通知书,把门关掉’,这相对于警察送达通知书的任务没有完成,警察怕说不清,就叫了支援。后面就是一系列的体制内的骚操作了。
这种事情在中国,事主肯定不会死,连受伤都不会,几个警察大老爷们不能制服一个拿刀的女博士吗?拿防暴叉一叉住就搞定了。美国的人权问题,中国政府应该多关心一下,介绍一些中国警察执法的经验和工具,能挽救很多美国人的生命。
已经警民冲突剧烈了,警察也不想死啊。
互相不信任吧。
菜刀能有多长,还是没尖儿的,抄起一把椅子,腿儿朝外,一顶就把女的顶墙上了,还至于开枪。美国的警察跟猪没两样。美国这种事情总发生,就不能配备一些防爆叉吗?
要不中国能不能捐赠一些样品,然后大规模出口?外宣和外贸部门都是干嘛吃的?
所以,一定是女子的错。受国内的不良习俗毒害严重,没有虚心接受先进文明的熏陶。
警察的处理是专业地,程序正义满分。
华人应该反思自己
……
编不下去。
包括但是不限于,收钱不干活,把公共利益去寻租,滥用公共维修基金。
唯一的好处是,物业不能去卖业主的房子。
打击了一下,这是一个改善。
哦,是美国警察啊,那没事了
河里的F大、本大、P大等出来走两步,别想着当包皮佬的丈人和国师了,这事才是你们真的需要关切的事。。。
一个物业公司养着很多管理人员,加上施工关系户,这里的黑事多了去了。我们那个镇屋物业有个停车楼,屋里停车,屋顶也能停车,结构非常简单,就是屋顶总漏,当年花50万加元修过,说50年内不会漏了,结果10年就又漏了。